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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:15:52 +0600 (LKT)
From: Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel <kalum AT lintux DOT cx>
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> > Sorry if i am missing something, but I thought that the consumer base is
> > *the* reliable evidence of the ultimate quality of the product int he
> > long run.
> 
> Evidently, it isn't, not in our age, anyway.  It looks like consumers
> don't mind bying a product that crashes several times a day...

Well I certainly wouldn't mind buying a product that crashes several times
a day if it's learning curve is less steep.

> 
> > And please note that for the user the "quality" of a product does not mean
> > the technical quality, but how user friendly it is.
> 
> That's an interesting notion of quality.  User-friendliness is one of
> the factors, but it surely isn't the only one, nor is it the most
> important one.

But you must admit that it plays a *major* role...fre ex just see why many
people prefer using RHGDB instead of GDB :(
 
> > Windoze is so popular because it is
> > much more user friendly than linux and all it's GUI's.....
> 
> X windows is not less user-friendly than MS-Windows.

Actually it should be the Window manager that decides this. As it is the
Window Manager that decides the "feel" of the windows etc...
 
> > They expect that the secretary would prefer a technically superior linux
> > over windoze and then they expect her to do her word processing in ..VI !
> 
> I don't know who expects that from secretaries.  There are true word
> processors for Linux (StarOffice, for one).

That is indeed a Good thing and I use it almost exsclusively.

> Btw, I don't know when did you last work in a large corporation, but
> where I work, secretaries run to your truly asking to solve problems
> with Word.  So much for user-friendliness...

Well I don't think that they bother to have a look at the
extensive documentation..the same way that many people (including me
sometimes) don't bother reading the DJGPP FAQ first before posting ;-)

It's just much easier and faster for them to ask a guru about thier
problem than searching through the doc's...and this does not reflect about
the user friendliness in a major way.

> > Just see where GNOME got it's feel...yes from windoze 95.
> 
> Look and feel do not have to contradict stability and quality.

Yes...but it shows that windoze GUI is indeed user friendly if GNOME too
borrows on it...
 
> > for example I would prefer A "inferiror" product with a GUI based debugger
> > than a "awesome?" one with a *!*!! command line based debugger...
> 
> Me too, but what's your point?  Both Windows and Linux satisfy this
> requirement.

No I was commenting about the sad lack (I may be wrong here) of a IDE
based debugger for GDB...I commented on this in another post...

Gendel

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