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From: "Johan Venter" <jventer AT writeme DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Can we vote on letting RSXNTDJ rest in peace?
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:15:52 +1000
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Shawn Hargreaves <ShawnH AT Probe DOT co DOT uk> wrote in message
news:8D53104ECD0CD211AF4000A0C9D60AE3015CAC57 AT probe-2 DOT acclaim-euro DOT net...

Arrggh....I just knew this would blow up in my face. I'm not trying to force
anyone into doing anything, I'm merely stating my opinions. If they are not
welcome, please tell me and I will review my viewpoint, I don't want to
cause trouble.

> I don't understand why you would think that any problems with RSXNTDJ
> need to be complained about to Rainer, or that it should be withdrawn
> from distribution. IMHO this idea is missing the whole point of how/why
> free software development works...

I'm not complaining to him, I'm merely appealing to him for help to fix his
software.

> be withdrawn from the net: that would be an impossible thing to do,
> even if there was a good reason for it, which I don't think there is.

I don't want to "withdraw" it from the Net, I never said that. I'd merely
like to see it fixed (which I would do myself if there wasn't the underlying
problem of me not having a full understanding of how it works).

I did, however, say that maybe it shouldn't be the win32 development
environment of choice on the zip picker. I think that other things should be
added to the zip picker to make the selection process fair.

> Personally, I've never used RSXNTDJ for serious work, but when I
> tried it once it did create working win32 programs without any
> hassle. Other people say that there are some difficulties with it,
> in which case they are of course welcome to use something else
> instead: nobody is forcing anything onto anyone.

I was never trying to impose my opinions upon anyone, I was stating them.
I'm sorry if it seems like I'm trying to "force" anyone to not use RSXNTDJ,
I'm just saying that it's flawed and unmaintained. If people want to use it
(as I still do, BTW), they can go ahead.

> If you are aware of ways that RSXNTDJ could be improved, the best
> thing to do would be to make these fixes. Talk to Rainer first to
> get his permission, and then if he really has lost interest in
> the package, you can take over the maintenance of it in his
> absence. Or if you don't want to use RSXNTDJ at all, by all means
> go off and use something else instead. It doesn't hurt you that
> RSXNTDJ should still exist, so there is no reason for you to
> complain about it if it doesn't do what you need. Be happy with
> Mingw32 if that is what you prefer...

The thing is I don't understand the full inner workings of RSXNTDJ, although
I can see the cosmetic faults. I cannot fully fix RSXNTDJ without fully
understanfing what it is that I'm fixing. Plus the fixes that I could
possibly add would be incomplete because of my lack of knowledge.

--
Johan Venter
ICQ 3643877
surf.to/djgppig



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