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From: walt121 AT my-dejanews DOT com
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: DJGPP: the future is... ?
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 07:59:55 GMT
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In article <36FCFE36 DOT F34D5AC AT a DOT crl DOT com>,
  Weiqi Gao <weiqigao AT a DOT crl DOT com> wrote:
> Here's my two cents:
>
> 1.  Spread DJGPP to the masses: bright high school kids who's not up to
> the task of installing Linux and whose parents can only afford a low
> cost Windows box would be delighted to learn that they can learn all the
> languages that they care to learn all along.  Just get DJGPP and you
> could be on your way to
> C/C++/Pascal/Ada/Fortran/Bash/TeX/Perl/Assembler/Gaming/...  A
> "distribution", complete with a guide would be very nice.  Oh wait a
> minute, there's already a GNU software for DOS and Windows CD in the
> bookstores now.
>

If, by "distribution," you include an installer for a standardized set of
components, I agree fully.  When I decided to take C language classes, I
initially bought some books during vacation time.  I then searched for "free
compilers" and found DJGPP and some others.  Over time, I've pared away all of
the C and C++ compilers except LCC. (LCC is a port of gcc to Win 95, and is
free, but no longer supported.)  Why do I use LCC?  Because I didn't have to
struggle with it.  Its installer worked correctly, the first time.  It's saved
my butt in C class.  But I'll be looking again in the Fall, when C++ starts.

Include RHIDE and DFE95.  Include Allegro and a standardized set of libraries
for it.

And yes, a standard GUI interface, so that programs can have a consistent look
and feel, would also help.

> 2.  DJGPP is dependent on DOS.  Inevitably DJGPP will face the day when
> DOS is no longer shipped, explicitly or implicitly, with every PC.  Will
> there be a DOS box in Windows 2000? 2002? 2004?  DJGPP need to get ready
> for that eventuality.  Maybe a port of DOSEMU to the future DOS-less
> Windows platforms isn't too bad an idea.
>
A better idea would be to find a way to join up with the FreeDOS project.
Someone in this thread said that it is coming along very well.  Maybe their
project will be influenced to include 32-bit support.  If not, create a 16-bit
compiler version and include it in the package.  Put FreeDOS into that
installation program also.

3. One more thing.  Have someone write one of those intro to programming
books, and include the whole DJGPP set on CD.  Get it into the bookstores and
computer stores.

--Walt
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