Mail Archives: djgpp/1998/08/03/18:30:44
paxton AT accrington-web DOT co DOT uk wrote:
> Hey! Merlin <merlin__ AT geocities DOT com> wasn't it Mon, 03 Aug 1998
> 04:51:54 GMT that you wrote:
>
> >This exactly what i think... That people should still know what is really going on
> >whether or not they used allegro.
>
> Why ?
you need to learn to get better at something. And using a library that's makes things so
simplistic is like telling some other programmer to make a program which you have designed
then taking most of the credit for the programming.(or so i see it. you may see it
differently, frankly i don't care in the least)
> >Yes...I agree that if someone can't do something then it is ok to use allegro's...but
> >this doesn't give them an excuse to stop learning....I think that they should still try
>
> An excuse you say ?... It is a reason I would need.. I use allegro and
> see absoloutly no reason to find out how something works when allegro
> does it for me..
You say you NEED this reason? Why? There is no law against learning that i have heard of.
>
>
> >to figure out how to use it and not just stop learning because it's allready been done
> >for them...
>
> If you use fprint...do you then go and learn how the computer works
> that out to putting text on the screen...
i have never used fprint.. only c++'s cout. And i do know how that works..At least i think...
The point is that i haven't stopped trying to figure out how it works or how any other
function, allegro, libc or otherwise... I mean don't you wonder sometimes how they work...
when i wonder how they work i go find out.
> surely everyone is using
> shortcuts but to varying degrees.. just because you know a little more
> than the bloke next door doesnt mean you have to instantly become a
> smart-arse telling everyone else to learn,
>
Yes.. everyone does use shortcuts to varying degrees but I PERSONALLY think this is no excuse
to stop learning. I don't care what you learn or what programming language you use. I don't
care who knows more than whoever else.. You still have no excuse to not learn. Besides how do
you know how much i know....I may know nothing for all you know.. I am not telling anyone what
to learn, I am just stating that i don't like to use allegro becuase it makes me feel like i'm
not doing it myself. Then i asked for other people's OPINION. I did not accuse or call people
names, I simply stated my opinion then asked for yours.
> >If they can better them then i think they should try... If not i think they should try to
> >learn how to better it.. What bugs me is that some people stop trying to figure it out
> >themselves once they have a library because it's been handed to them on a silver
> >platter..
>
> Why do you think everyone in the world should think like you ?,
I don't...
> How about the fact that I am not very well educated through no fault
> of my own, i am not even very litterrate, have you ANY idea how hard
> it was for me to learn allegro? Yet I get praised for the games i
> make,
I don't care how educated you are or how hard it is to learn this and that. Since when to you
need to know how to write perfect english or read perfect english to go to the library and get
a book on programming or search the internet for information. The very fact that you wrote the
above message is fact enough that you could learn anything you wished to. I myself had no
teacher to teach me to program.. I learned myself until I started university last year where i
was actually taught some new things in c++, before which i used pascal and assembly mostly. I
have learned to program mostly on my own and it is no big feat, I just read the books and did
the examples.
>
>
> Ho and believe me, the people playing my games dont give a flying
> monkeys what language i use or how much i know :)
I do. When i play a game i often wonder what language it was coded in and how they did some
thing's they did do.
Merlin.
>
>
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