Mail Archives: djgpp/1998/07/11/12:45:35
Weiqi Gao escreveu:
> Sérgio Vale e Pace wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everybody!
> > I'm here with a project, that don't exist yet, to include win32
> > compiling in DJGPP.
> > Why? you ask. in 2 weeks searching I found 4 options for free win32
> > compilers:
> > 1. RSXNTDJ
> > 2. CYGwin32
> > 3. MingWin32
> > 4. Lcc32
> > The first was the best option, since it is an adaption to DJGPP (for
> > DOS and Win32 programs), but still using binutils 2.7... and you must
> > pay to produce comercial programs
> > The second and third share some problems, they cause "path"
> > problems, I mean you must hide DJGPP when compiling Win32 and
> > vice-verse, and to be honest I have so many problems trying to make then
> > work there I didn't really compile something
> > The fourth die in the C without the ++, a very complex and hard to
> > use IDE, and a strange dos window in background
> >
> > So, I'm wondering if somebody can help me to make adaptations on DJGPP
> > so it can compile Win32 programs, I mean can't be that dificult, the big
> > part of the job is in the linker, instead of get the COFF and write a
> > DOS EXE, write a Win32 EXE, develop an IDE, create a .LIB to .A
> > conversor to convert the MSSDK or even make the linker read the LIB
> > files( this will be even better) . I know that this it's not very easy
> > but I thomk that can be done.
> >
> > Please send any comments, info, or "hey I'm crazy like you and want to
> > help"
>
> And the final result of this exercise will be something very similar to
> GNU-Win32/mingw32, which is already part of the GNU C/C++ package.
>
> The latest I've heard about RSXNTDJ is that its development has ceased
> precisely because of the availability of GNU-Win32/mingw32. (Somebody
> correct me if I'm wrong.)
>
> If we can somehow reuse the RSXDJNT's code without violating the
> copyright, that would be the way to go.
>
Sorry the delay, but my news server was "out of combat" last week.
Well, have you ever try to make a win32 program in Visual Basic, or
Delphi? If the answer are yes then you know what I mean when I say that the
actual free compilers for win32 are at least "disconfortable", I didn't
intalled CygWin32, but I don't wait a really good programming envoirment,
since Cygnus have a commercial package that probably hold this features.
Another msg, from "allens say to me that the dos window behind lcc is just
a switch I didn't put in command line, but the object oriented paradigm still
missing.
The idea behind this... well this ideia, because right now I don't have
the experience or the technical knowledge to call this a project, is not to
critize anyone idea or initiative, in matter of fact, this idea came to me
while I was reading the Lcc docs. I mean, the compiler itself is already done
(DJGPP), and wildely used. the problem is get the COFF files the compiler
generate and link it for a win32 program, exactly like RSXNTDJ does, but since
RSXNTDJ is not a totally free package, and like you said, protected by
copyright laws, we will have to "reinvent the wheel", but produce win32
executables is just part of the job, a more "professional" IDE, using the new
technologies like modular programming, and a easier interface for the event
oriented style of the windows. And finally, Microsoft puts on the net the SDK,
I can garantee, but I think that it should be the best source for accessing
the Win32 API, and none of the actual free compilers can directly use this
code, I mean it's there just get it, but how use it?
I know that this idea it's not easy to acomplish, but I think that can be
done. Imagine if our dear friend DJ says "why port GCC to DOS? we alread have
Borland CPP or Turbo CPP."
Finally, All comments are welcome, but the main porpuse of this msg is ask
for help to make this thing real.
Thank's for your time (I know how boring is to read a long msg)
Sérgio Vale e Pace
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