From:	Myknees AT aol DOT com
Message-ID:	<150682cb.34d90dbe@aol.com>
Date:	Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:54:20 EST
To:	eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il
Cc:	djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Mime-Version:	1.0
Subject:	Re: Emacs 19.34

In a message dated 98-02-04 03:59:27 EST, eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il writes:
>  On 4 Feb 1998, Myknees wrote:
>  > It still does it when I try to use emacs from
>  > just DOS and not from DOS-within-Windows.  On a hunch I did tried 
> something:
>  > 
>  > I changed the line, "set LFN=y", in my autoexec.bat to "rem set
>  > LFN=y".  When I restarted, emacs behaved exactly as you describe,
>  > i.e. it exited on invocation.
>  
>  If you want an Emacs installation that will work both with and without
>  the long file name support, you need to try harder.  The problem is
>  that Windows 95 by default uses numeric tails when it generates 8+3
>  aliases for long file names.  So e.g. case-table.elc gets a short name
>  like case-t~1.elc instead of case-tab.elc.  When the long names are
>  disabled, either because you boot into DOS or set LFN=n, Emacs looks
>  for case-tab.elc which is a truncation of case-table.elc, which
>  fails.  Since the DJGPP version needs that specific file to start up,
>  it just exits.
>  
>  To have an installation that works without long names as well, you
>  need to turn off the numeric tails *before* you unzip Emacs.  The
>  DJGPP FAQ list explains how to do that in section 8.2.  

I remember reading that when I first installed djgpp and thinking, "edit the
registry?!!"

> In fact, I
>  advise everybody who uses DJGPP on Windows 95 to turn off the numeric
>  tails permanently (that's what I did), despite the hell and high water
>  which Microsoft promise you if you do.

I tried to follow the directions in the FAQ's section 8.2, but after re-
unzipping the emacs files, I see that the numeric tails are still there.
Before when I've changed something in the Windows configuration it has taken
several tries before Windows acknowledges the change.  (I'm thinking of Tweak
UI.)

Another possibility is that I messed up somewhere.  I did not really know
whether I did the right thing when I entered a value for "NameNumericTail".
It opened a window for me to modify the value, and it had four zeros already.
I hit '0', and two more zeros appeared.  So I figured I was done.  Maybe that
is not what you meant.

--Ed (Myknees)

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