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From: Ned Ulbricht <nedu AT ee DOT washington DOT edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: em1934*.zip - emacs info on emacs
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 07:07:37 -0800
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On 21 Dec 97, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Dec 1997, Ned Ulbricht wrote:
> 
> > Yesterday, I downloaded the Simtel DJGPP archive distribution of GNU 
> > Emacs MS-DOS binaries (files: em1934b.zip and em1934r?.zip).
> 
> Please tell what are the sizes are date/time stamps of the .zip files 
> that you downloaded.  There was a bug in older binary distribution that 
> would cause problems like what you describe, but it is corrected in the 
> latest distribution (dated October 27 or later).

Unfortunately my ftp client does not preserve file dates :(.   
I just checked the simtel mirror where I got the zips 
(hkstar.com/.2/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2gnu)--the file size sizes 
reported there are still the same as the sizes I downloaded Friday, 
so these dates are probably what my downloads should have had:

em1934b.zip     1,441,617    19971027  05:22
em1934r1.zip    1,442,255    19971027  07:46
em1934r2.zip    1,445,786    19971027  08:42
em1934r3.zip    1,369,311    19971027  09:24

As an additional check, since pkunzip *does* preserve the file date, 
what I installed on my system includes:

cwsdpmi.exe       20,473     19 Oct 97  9:48p
emacs.exe      1,714,176     22 Sep 97 10:07a

My guess
> > is that the immediate cause of my problem is that (as I've verified 
> > with other tools) the emacs/info/emacs file and all the 
> > emacs/info/emacs-?? files contain CR/LF sequences (0x0a 0x0d).  In 
> > contrast, all of the other djgpp/info/* and emacs/info/* files 
> > contain only LFs.
> 
> This is incorrect.  The DJGPP port of Emacs doesn't care about the CR/LF 
> pair, because the CR characters are stripped when the Info file is read.  

> It is also untrue that all of the files in the djgpp/info directory are 
> Unix-style, at least not on my system, and I can read all the Info files 
> in both Emacs and the stand-alone info.exe.

Oops--after I got your mail, I found more info files with CR/LF 
sequences in the djgpp/info dir.  (I can't figure out how to get any 
of my grep-alikes to find that sequence, so I have to look at each 
file by hand.)  But the additional ones I've found are also 
problematic with emacs info, either generating No such 
node: Top or displaying ^M at the end of every line.

> If you want to be sure whether this is the problem, run dtou.exe on the 
> file that has DOS-style lines, and see if that helps.  My guess is it 
> won't.

It fixes all problems (war, famine, etc :)--no, really it fixes both 
the No such node: Top problem and the ^M display for all the 
info files I've managed to find that need it.  Hooray.

Unfortunately, I've just discovered another problem that dtou doesn't 
fix.  The space bar is not paging the dir node down--instead it jumps 
immediately to the first menu just like ].  It was only when I used 
the down arrow key that I realized there was more than one screenful 
of dir and that the space bar should be working like C-v until the 
bottom.  I think the space bar is working correctly in all the other 
nodes I've visited so far, though--at least I haven't seen any text 
that appears to end in the middle of a sentence.

I have run dtou against /djgpp/info/dir so this does appear to be 
a second problem now.  I've read the faqs (or at least skimmed thru
them) 
but are there any really common ways I might have messed up my 
installation or configuration?
-- 
Ned Ulbricht
nedu AT ee DOT washington DOT edu

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