From:	pavlichum AT topaz DOT cqu DOT edu DOT au (Thunder Child)
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Subject:	Re: Win32:beginner needs net-docs...
Date:	7 Oct 97 10:23:29 +1000
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In article <613ji2$i9j AT news DOT ml DOT com>, "Edison M. Castro" <edison_castro AT ml DOT com> writes:
> Just visit www.microsoft.com/msdn for an electronic subscription to msdn and
> you will have access to all info and example code.
> Sean Gilley wrote in message <3432B5C5 DOT 6EDC AT netunlimited DOT net>...
>>Weiqi Gao wrote:
>>>
>>> Thunder Child wrote:
>>> >
>>> >   I've been programming in DOS for ages and I've had a great time
> (DJGPP
>>> > is a GREAT free development platform).  Lately, though, I've been
> itching
>>> > to try my hand at Win95 specific stuff : call it morbid curiosity...
> ;).
>>> > I have NEVER coded for Windows, X, OS/2 or ANY event driven environment
>>> > for that matter, so I think I have a battle ahead of me since there
> doesn't
>>> > seem to be too much out there on the net to help me get started.
>>> >
>>> > OK, so there are Microsofts SDKs which I'm sure will be useful, but
> where
>>> > is the raw SDK (ie. Win32) with its Kernel, GDI and USER sections
> nicely
>>> > explained and referenced?  I've found lcc-win32 (don't have the URL,
> but
>>> > a search will turn the page up for anyone who's interested) which seems
>>> > like it will compile C code for a Win32 environment...  RSXNT(?) and
>>> > GNU Win32 C++ are also alternatives I could look at.  All I need now is
>>> > some info on how to get started.  Surely there must be SOMETHING on the
>>> > net...  I've surfed until I've become crosseyed and STILL I've found
>>> > nothing.  Any pointers to info would be MUCHLY appreciated.
>>>
>>> Bite the bullet and shell out the dough for a copy of MSDN!  There ain't
>>> no other way, man.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Weiqi Gao
>>> weiqigao AT a DOT crl DOT com
>>
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>>But that still doesn't seem to be enough.

I've had a look at MSDN...  I could see it being useful once I have a 
foundation of knowledge to build on, but obviously it hasn't occured to
them that someone could have NO Windows programming experience.

I HAVE found some useful (but dated) documentation out there for the beginner
though... It is called the Windows Developers Journal.  There are eight
issues...  I believe the second issue has a fully documented C "hello world"
program, and there is a "beginners corner" in every issue.  For those who
are interested I found it on a ftp.coast.net mirror site in the msdos/wdj
directory (I think).  (I only found this after a friend had a fuzzy
recollection about ftping something from garbo... (I only found a single issue
there though).

-Mark

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