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From: "A. Sinan Unur" <asu1 AT cornell DOT edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: A Very New Beginner
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:46:05 -0400
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David Jenkins wrote:
> 
> >
> >  - what do you think a file README.1ST stands for ??
> >  - what do you think "Frequently Asked Questions" stands for ??
> >
> Some people use English as a second language, they might find it
> difficult to translate the instructions to their native tongue and 
> apply them to whatever it is. Ever considered that??

i am not a native speaker. however, it seems like most of the whining
comes from people with very anglo-american/canadian names/addresses.
further, most of them don't say "this is what i read and i do not
understand such and such". that is because they do not even read the
most basic instructions.

> >  Most of the newbies just skip these (or read half of it) and get 
> >  into  trouble. Who's fault is this? You think that the people who 
> >  treated this  great software and help have nothing else to do - 
> > some of us have jobs you know!

> So what??
> Don't answer them, ignore them, don't waste your time with them.
> 
> BTW your too busy to help the guy, but your not too busy to moan at 
> him. Why??

because i (and i presume the person you are replying to) would like to
feel that this is a place we can turn to when we need help with
substantial issues. and not a place where "how to compile c++" or "how
to unzip" is discussed over and over and over and over again. that is
why asking questions that have already been answered in the FAQ is
inappropriate in any newsgroup/mailing list on UseNet. you might want to
look at the faq for news:announce.new.users if you need further info.

> >  Please show more respect for those who have spent *so* much of 
> > their time  to put it all together for *free* and in their spare 
> > time, then if you still have some questions go ahead....
> >
> I didn't notice the poster showing any signs of disrespect anywhere.

the disrespect is in the act of not bothering to do any work themselves
(like reading README.1ST), then posting a gazillion "teach me" messages,
and then saying they were flamed because someone told them to read
README.1ST.

> >  If you feel important information is missing from the FAQ, you have 
> >  the  opportunity to improve it by contributing your suggestion/etc. 
> >  to it.  See the FAQ (indeed) for how to do this...
> >
....
> How about if someone wrote a small doc explaining how to unzip the 
> .zips into a Djgpp folder, then how to put the SETs stuff into 
> Autoexec.bat, then put this small doc on a site, all you'd need to do 
> then is reply with the URL pointing to the doc??

maybe someone should also write something that describes how to turn the
computer on, how to make chicken soup etc? you are essentially proposing
that each newsgroup should be responsible for teaching every single
_basic_ thing related to computing. you are welcome to write it, of
course ...

-- 
   Sinan
 
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