Message-Id:	<338946B3.2ED4@canvaslink.com>
Date:	Mon, 26 May 1997 04:15:47 -0400
From:	Tom Grandgent <tgrand AT canvaslink DOT com>
Reply-To:	tgrand AT canvaslink DOT com
Organization:	Canvas Link, Inc.
Mime-Version:	1.0
To:	djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Cc:	shawn AT talula DOT demon DOT co DOT uk
Subject:	Allegro web site really -is- down, apparently

This may help clear up some of the confusion about the recent downtime
of the Allegro web site (answering "is it down or isn't it?")

It looks to me like there is some sort of routing problem...  I cannot
imagine anyone outside of demon.net being able to connect at the moment,
unless they are really looking at a cached copy (from either their local
machine or from a proxy server.)

Here's my traceroute output for talula.demon.co.uk:

TraceRoute talula.demon.co.uk (194.222.103.32)
host unreachable from 158.152.0.2: time=396 ms
 1    122    122 205.247.201.1   gate1.splusnet.com
 2    133     11 206.137.223.1   route-frgw.harvard.net
 3    135      2 206.64.152.132  route-bay.harvard.net
 4    225     90 137.39.135.177  903.Hssi3-0.GW2.BOS1.ALTER.NET
 5    155    -70 137.39.13.250   422.atm11-0.cr2.bos1.alter.net
 6    237     82 137.39.58.5     103.Hssi8-0.CR2.DCA1.Alter.Net
 7    153    -84 137.39.13.185   312.atm1-0.br1.dca1.alter.net
 8    154      1 206.157.77.25   core5-hssi5-0.Washington.mci.net
 9    476    322 166.48.8.1      bordercore3-loopback.WestOrange.mci.net
10    152   -324 166.48.8.14     hazel-hssi-3.router.demon.net
11    230     78 194.159.252.98  ermin-router.router.demon.net
12    237      7 158.152.0.2     trude-fpa0.router.demon.net
13    240      3 158.152.0.2     host unreachable

Here's the traceroute for www.talula.demon.co.uk:

TraceRoute www.talula.demon.co.uk (195.11.126.62)
timed out
 1    121    121 205.247.201.1   gate1.splusnet.com
 2    136     15 206.137.223.1   route-frgw.harvard.net
 3    138      2 206.64.152.132  route-bay.harvard.net
 4    136     -2 137.39.135.177  903.Hssi3-0.GW2.BOS1.ALTER.NET
 5    137      1 137.39.13.250   422.atm11-0.cr2.bos1.alter.net
 6    152     15 137.39.58.5     103.Hssi8-0.CR2.DCA1.Alter.Net
 7    152      0 137.39.13.185   312.atm1-0.br1.dca1.alter.net
 8    153      1 206.157.77.25   core5-hssi5-0.Washington.mci.net
 9    151     -2 166.48.8.1      bordercore3-loopback.WestOrange.mci.net
10    162     11 166.48.8.14     hazel-hssi-3.router.demon.net
11      *      * timed out

Shawn, do you know what is going on? :(

	Tom Grandgent
	tgrand AT canvaslink DOT com
	Canvas Link, Inc.

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