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From: dbrotherhood AT geocities DOT com (Michael D. Ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: Complaints about DJGPP
Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 22:17:58 GMT
Organization: Brotherhood Software
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On Mon, 19 May 1997 09:44:52 GMT, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

>
>> I still stand by djgpp taking up lots of space- a fullish install takes up
>> about 100 meg, of which approx. 50% is wasted due to the loads of small
>> files and the essence of FAT16. I don't just mean the include files- they
>
>This is way bigger than most people need, and yes there are a lot of
>small files, but back when there weren't, people complained that
>things were missing.  Sigh.
>
>> I also stand by the slow compile time and slow running time due to crap
>> optimization,
>
>No portable compiler produces better code than a platform-specific and
>hand-optimized compiler.  Fact of life.
>
>GCC is big, and you only get good compile times with careful system
>optimization.  I can compile gcc itself in about 16 minutes, which is
>pretty fast.  DOS Quake built with gcc on a quad CPU alpha builds
>(from scratch!) in about 20 seconds.
>
>> is that djgpp is a straightish port of gcc, which doesn't have pentium
>> optimization yet- so no scheduling of floating point and no pairing of
>
>Newly released!  The PCG has a djgpp port of their pentium-optimized
>gcc.
>
>> use the c++ libraries, and isn't it the case that things written with
>> djgpp's c++ libraries are not allowed to be used commercially without
>> licence or something? I read something about it somewhere, once, (goes
>
>If you use the gnu-specific C++ library (-lgxx), yes.  If you use the
>ANSI standard C++ library (-lstdcxx), no.
>
>> Anyway, YES I do bash djgpp a bit now, but it was excellent when I was
>> learning c++, and who cared about speed then? If it ran I was happy! Also I
>
>Hey, it it made you happy at one time, I'm happy.  DJGPP may not be
>perfect for everyone, but by being free, you at least have the option
>of trying it and seeing if it's right for you.
>
>> post, and I didn't incorrectly punctuate my post etc so get your facts
>
>You forgot two commas and a period around "etc" (sorry, I couldn't
>resist :-)
>
>DJ

I think DJGPP is plenty fast, a lot smaller than my version of Borland
and a whole lot easier to use.  I have never received a memory error
that I could not deal with using DJGPP.  With Borland, I scrapped many
programs because I couldn't find what was causing it to crash...

IMHO,  DJGPP is the best 32-BIT C compiler I have found, and like DJ
says, it's free..  I have used a lot of compilers and this one is the
best hands down.  

I also encourage everyone to use it.  It is hard to use at first
(since there is no IDE type interface), but once you learn, there is
no going back...




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