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From: Jeff Weeks <pweeks AT execulink DOT com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: OpenDOS
Date: 29 Jan 1997 02:18:05 GMT
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>  Might be possible, but he made it sound liek the OS would blow up the
> computer if it wasn't MS-DOS, all it does is warn, and truth be known,
> DR. DOS was never 100% MS-DOS compatable so the warning was called for.
> I never ran across any probelms under windows, but I only use windows,
> to this day, for filmanager and Works.

I agree.

> Umm, that was for MS's liscence agreement that IBM had to pay money for
> every system sold whether MS-DOS was on it or not. Frankly, I thought
> this was dumb, IBM should have known better than to sign such a thing.

Yes, indeed.  IBM never was very smart when it came to that sort of
thing.  Personally I think OS/2 has way better technology than Win95 but
IBM will never be able to market it as good as M$ does.

> But let's point out a few point they don't harp about,
> 1. AT&T, the makers of this precious Unix OS at one time was ordered
>    by the FCC to permit useage of thier long-ditance lines, until then
>    they were essentially a monopoly. Anyone care? No? So why the fuss
>    over MS?

Yeah but AT&T doesn't suck :)  Most people, me included, react so much
to M$'s monopoly (and they DO have one!) because they hate M$ and think
their OSs are inferior.  I use Linux and think it's TONS better than any
M$ OS... plus it comes with source code and is totally free!!!  I think
another part of it is, they realise that in time they'll have to use an
M$ OS because of M$'s monopoly.  They don't want to leave their
favorite, and probably better, OS.

> IBM and Intel have committed several violations, yet they never made the
> news, but MS puts a warning message in Windows and the World is
> making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Yeah, because M$ HAS A MONOPOLY :)  Everybody wants to know what M$ does
(or screws up) so that they can compensate for it.  Everybodies programs
now have to run flawlessly under M$ OSs because of their monopoly, so,
therefore, people are obsessed with learning about M$.

I've heard rumors than Intel is about to release a new chip, a P7 I
guess you could call it.  Apparently it will no longer be x86
compatible.  Now, if this is true, and M$ decides not to support this
chip, do you think it'll survive?  Probably not... and that's not fair
because the chip will most likely be a huge improvement over even a
PPro200.  Why should M$ have this much control over the computer market,
I ask?

> People used to complain MS charged for everything, now they complain
> that Navigator is free. they used to complain that MS-DOS was
> only 16Bit and had no GUI, now they complain windows is slow.

People complain about Navigator being free?  If that's true then I
agree, that's stupid.  Sure, people complained that DOS was 16-bit and
had no GUI... then when windoze came along they complained more...
however, Windoze wasn't 32-bit... therefore, Windoze didn't upgrade that
portion of DOS like it should have.  Also, Windoze is increadible slow! 
I run Linux and can boot into X-Windows in about 6 seconds on my 486...
Windoze (3.x, 95, or NT) don't even come close!

> See the point? A legitimate complaint is one thing, but most of these
> people just do it to bitch.

I understand your points exactly... I'm just playing devil's advocate
because I, myself, don't like M$ and have decent resons for it.  I'm not
just a flaming hypocrite like most are.

Jeff

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