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From: RHS Linux User <tarquin AT texas DOT net>
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Subject: Re: Q:Debbuger.
Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:24:01 -0600
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"John M. Aldrich" <fighteer AT cs DOT com> writes:

> Try gdb, the GNU debugger.  It's available from SimTel as
> v2gnu/gdb416b.zip.  Or use the new RHIDE IDE, which has gdb as an
> integrated debugger.

he forgot the portability of DJGPP. GDB can debug a running Linux kernel :)

>   DJGPP comes with a free DPMI host that is only 20k long.  Borland
> (AFAIK) uses DOS4GW, which is 250k.

nah, I think Borland uses that RTM/DPMILOAD stuff. DOS4/GW is Watcom

> ones who provide the support.  Borland has voice mail and "trained
> customer service representatives."

ugh. fools who think the web is a nifty new thing thought up by the Clinton
administration

>   id Software wrote Quake in DJGPP.  Need we say more?

Abrash mentioned a little pain about memset in his book. apparently his version
compiled as a byte move :)

> Advantages of Borland:
> 
>   Borland is Windows native.  This is a big minus for DJGPP, but it is
> getting much closer.  RSXNTDJ is an excellent package, but difficult to
> find resources for because Microsoft doesn't want free software butting
> in on their market.

the environment shouldn't make a difference in the executable format, or what
you can develop in. though one thing you almost definately need (especially
for X) is some form of framework or widget set.

> development and looking cooler every day.  It also has GNU Emacs, which
> is as powerful as any IDE in existence.  Advantage Borland?  Maybe, but
> it's a lot closer than it may seem.

Emacs as powerful as an ide? You must have gotten an old version :) XEmacs 
(Linux) has it's own graphical web browser, and is what I'm using for my
usenet reader :)

>   Borland has more books written in support of it.  Well, true, but the
> DJGPP Book Project is coming along...  Besides, most of those books are
> crap.

not to mention the pains of converting borland->microsoft. DJGPP's big porblem,
the AT&T asm is close to being fixed, if it isn't already

> But back to DJGPP:
> 
>   Borland gets more bug reports in a week than DJGPP has gotten in its
> entire lifetime.  True, much of this may be about its IDE, but doesn't
> this still indicate something significant?

free software always tends to be of higher quality. I had some idiots pick up 
my modem line several times and dial, and I never got disconnected (Linux 
rules :)

> Hope this helps!
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