Message-ID:	<3272C92D.335E@ananke.amu.edu.pl>
Date:	Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:30:05 +0100
From:	Mark Habersack <grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl>
Reply-To:	grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl
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To:	Chris Waters <design AT netcom DOT com>
CC:	djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Subject:	Re: Is djgpp better than Watcom C?
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Chris Waters wrote:

> >With one compiler you can produce programs for three OSs: DOS, Win95 &
> >WinNT.
> >And all this functionality takes 70% less disk space than with Borland,
> >Watcom or M$ compilers.
> 
> Watcom targets DOS (16 AND 32-bit), Win3.1 (16 AND 32-bit), Win95, OS/2,
> and WinNT, and you can run off the CD rom.  As for size, Watcom can
I run DJGPP off the CD also - no problem here.

> target any of those OSes *from* any of those OSes.  (You don't need,
> e.g. OS/2's msdos support installed to build msdos executables.)  It
> also comes with MFC and with SOM support.  It takes more space in part
Well... MFC support is nothing to be rally proud of. The library is
lousy and an excellent example of BAD object-oriented design and
programming.

> because it has more stuff.
That's right. MFC, for example, on M$ VC4 CD (I don't know how much on
Watcom CD) takes 120 MB of space!!! 

> >Results:
> >  DJGPP  WATCOM
> >    4      0
> 
> I think Watcom actually wins this one.
OK. Let it be.

> Of course, if we were to compare Watcom to gcc in general, it's another
> story....
Agreed here!

> Watcom also has, I think, better support for C++ templates and
> exceptions, but I won't swear to this part.
But DJGPP supports signatures - no commercial compiler supports them.
And they are far better than templates which are a very artificial
construct.

> Of course, djgpp is sitting on my hard drive, Watcom is still on the CD
> rom.  But then, I can use Watcom from there!

Well, in general I have nothing against Watcom, I have used it for a few
years. But I'm afraid it got infected with that virus which bugs all the
commercial compilers: "Gigantus Vulgaris". These compilers are just
oversized. Show me just one programmer who will use all these "add-ons"
that come with compiler? All those fancy IDEs, graphical debuggers, app
builders - are they really THAT necessary?

> Watcom also came with a groovy t-shirt.  :-)
;-)))

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