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Subject:	Re: ANNOUNCE: DJGPP port of GCC-4.8.2 (DJGPP v2.04 only)
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Hi again,

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Andris Pavenis <andris DOT pavenis AT iki DOT fi> wrote:
> On 10/16/2013 10:54 PM, Andris Pavenis wrote:
>>
>> This is announcement of DJGPP port of GCC-4.8.2
>
> There are several problems with this port:

On a completely separate (probably unimportant) note, I've got another
concern about latest builds. I'm a little worried about broken
functionality that isn't tested. In particular, this time I'm
wondering if ObjC works at all (for us).

Granted, I don't know of a single program ever working with ObjC for
DJGPP. It's not even easy to find GCC examples to test with! Did I
miss something? Is there a collection of examples or test suite or
anything for this? (GDB76S.ZIP has three very very simple ones.) A lot
of searching doesn't show too many promising leads. In particular, I
get the feeling that it's not (meant to be) supported beyond exclusive
use with (pseudo-standard) GNUstep or Apple's Cocoa frameworks.

The few very simple examples that I did manage to test only
(apparently) worked with older GCC 4.6.x, which was the last using the
(deprecated) "traditional" runtime. Compiled output instead just
crashes immediately with 4.7.x or 4.8.x, presumably using the "modern"
runtime. (Maybe the headers changed or I didn't use the right
switches. It's hard to tell.) I'm assuming this upgrade was meant to
sync up with ObjC 2.x features in recent Apple releases (10.5+).

I'm not suggesting deleting what works, but it seems (mostly?) broken,
and I just don't know ObjC, so I can't really test it. I hate the idea
of removing functionality, but I would really not recommend even
shipping it if it can't be proven to at least partially work.   :-(
 But presumably somebody here knows more (or could ask), though again,
I know it's not urgent nor important.

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