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Message-ID:	<343901E6.349E1F0@cdata.tvnet.hu>
Date:	Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:21:10 +0200
From:	Molnar Laszlo <molnarl AT cdata DOT tvnet DOT hu>
MIME-Version:	1.0
To:	Eli Zaretskii <eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il>
CC:	DJGPP workers <djgpp-workers AT delorie DOT com>
Subject:	Re: cwsdpmi and upper memory
References:	<Pine DOT SUN DOT 3 DOT 91 DOT 971005165043 DOT 19782C-100000 AT is>

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Did you try the /L and /S switches to LOADHIGH?  If not, please type
> "help loadhigh" from the DOS prompt, read the info and try to play
> with these two switches (and with "MEM /F" and "MEM /M CWSDPMI", like
> the help tells you).  It seems that DOS is foolishly trying to load
> CWSDPMI into a region that is too small.  Doesn't surprise me a bit,

I think I've found something interesting. After logging to the net
"mem/c" said, that ~19 kbytes of UMB memory is free. Then I started
vc.com (a norton commander clone) with "lh vc". Then I exited
immediately, and run "mem/c" again. And surprise!! Here is the diff of
the result of the two "mem/c" commands:

--- f1  Mon Oct  6 14:55:08 1997  (before "lh vc")
+++ f2  Mon Oct  6 14:55:20 1997  (after exiting "vc")
@@ -11,3 +11,3 @@
   SETVER         592    (1K)          0    (0K)        592    (1K)
-  COMMAND      3,136    (3K)          0    (0K)      3,136    (3K)
+  COMMAND     22,320   (22K)          0    (0K)     22,320   (22K)
   WCED        15,872   (16K)          0    (0K)     15,872   (16K)
@@ -21,3 +21,3 @@
   NETX        45,168   (44K)          0    (0K)     45,168   (44K)
-  Free       659,120  (644K)    639,600  (625K)     19,520   (19K)
+  Free       639,936  (625K)    639,600  (625K)        336    (0K)
 
@@ -28,3 +28,3 @@
   Conventional         655,360       15,760      639,600
-  Upper                162,800      143,280       19,520
+  Upper                162,800      162,464          336
   Reserved             393,216      393,216            0
@@ -32,8 +32,8 @@
   ----------------  ----------   ----------   ----------
-  Total memory      33,554,432   15,806,800   17,747,632
+  Total memory      33,554,432   15,825,984   17,728,448
 
-  Total under 1 MB     818,160      159,040      659,120
+  Total under 1 MB     818,160      178,224      639,936
 
   Largest executable program size        639,584   (625K)
-  Largest free upper memory block         19,184    (19K)
+  Largest free upper memory block            240     (0K)
   MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.

As you could notice, command.com is now 22kbytes instead of 3 kbytes !!!
Maybe it loaded its resident part into the memory? It seems that loading
command.com high is a bad idea. AFAIK, QEMM can load command.com high,
so this can be a problem with QEMM too, but I'm not sure. 
 
Laszlo

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