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Subject:	Re: ANNOUNCE: DJGPP port of Jansson 2.14 uploaded
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On 5/16/2022 4:40 PM, Juan Manuel Guerrero (juan DOT guerrero AT gmx DOT de) [via 
djgpp AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Am Mon, 16 May 2022 14:53:43 -0400
> schrieb "Frank Sapone (emoaddict15 AT gmail DOT com) [via djgpp AT delorie DOT com]"
> <djgpp AT delorie DOT com>:
>
>> On 5/16/2022 2:18 PM, Juan Manuel Guerrero (juan DOT guerrero AT gmx DOT de)
>> [via djgpp-announce AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>     DJGPP specific changes.
>>>     =======================
>>>
>>>     - The library requires an entropy source to seed the hash
>>> function. This can either be a driver or a random data file.  On
>>> plain DOS one such driver, NOISE.SYS, can be obtained from:
>>>         http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/index.html
>>>       as:
>>>         http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/noise063a2.zip
>>>       Please read the instructions carefully.  This driver works on
>>> DOS and may be on some versions of Windows but it does not work for
>>> all versions of Windows.  For XP it does not work and I have found
>>> no replacement.  Alternatively a random data file can be used.
>>>       It will be found by the library at run-time by evaluating the
>>>       RANDFILE environment variable.
>> Hi Juan,
>>
>> Thanks for the port.  I may have some use for this under DOS.
>> However, is the noise driver absolutely required to use this lib? Is
>> there some reason it can't just use the regular rand() functions?
>> The website shows "under construction" when the link is followed btw.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Frank
>>
>
> Hello Frank,
>
> the only reason why I have done it this way, was because it was the
> easiest way to do it for me.  I need the noise source anyway for
> other ports like openSSL and lynx so I have opted to do it here the
> same way.  I have no objections in changing this the next time.  Of
> course, with the possibility to read "random" data from a file or even
> worse by using rand() it will no longer be really random at all but
> that is ok with me.
>
> Concerning the noise063a2.zip file, I fear that it has gone for ever.
> At least I have not found it any where.  May be some one will find it
> some where.  This was my fault, I have forgotten about this because I
> have installed it on my MSDOS box all the time.
> For people still interested in it, they can get it by downloading the
> binary archive of the latetest lynx port:
>      ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/l290d10b.zip
> In the djgpp directory is a noise063a2 directory containing the original
> zip file as retrived by me from the URL given together with a diffs file
> with small changes I have done to the original sources.
>
> Regards,
> Juan M. Guerrero

Hi Juan,

I'd be OK with it defaulting to rand() if noise or a file is not found.  
I think having users rely on either can be a bit cumbersome depending on 
the application.  I don't need true randomness (or much at all, to be 
honest) in my use case.

Understood on the noise.sys homepage.  If you'd like, I can mirror the 
site and/or files at my location as well.

Thanks for all your hard work,
Frank

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