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From:	"decker" <bdeck AT lycos DOT co DOT uk>
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Subject:	DJGPP Modifications: second try
Date:	29 May 2006 01:29:27 -0700
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Hello,

I have received further correspondence from DBorca concerning
djgpp-elf. It sounds very good to me:


>> Is your djgpp-elf compatible with libtool's libltdl(see
>>
> http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_171.html#SEC171)?
>> This would mean that gcc-elf-djgpp supports the -fPIC -DPIC options,
>> correct?
>
> Yes, once you have the compiler proper for ELF (that is, cc1.exe),
> you have the choice of using -fPIC option for generating position
> independent code (a less-powerful flag is -fpic with smaller GOT).
> -DPIC is then just a preprocessor #define, just in case the code
> needs to know whether it runs PIC or not.
>
> Interestingly, you can build your .SO with or without -fPIC under
> DJELF; and it will work just the same.
>
> There is also another flag, namely -fpie for generating position
> independent executable.  PIE is more suited for DOS-like environments
> and the loader is much cleaner.
>
> I'm not sure what libltdl is meant to be, as I pretty much hate
> Autotools.  And besides, the world is full of standards :^)
> However, if libltdl is based on dlopen, then yes, it will work.


Here is the sad part:


>> We are hoping like you that Delorie will merge djgpp-elf into the
>> 2.04
>> core distro. This would make things much easier for the rest of us! I
>> understand that there is some interest, but I want your opinion on
>> how
>> 'great' their interest is...
>>
> Well, Charles' interest can be categorized as great.  Other people's
> interest was more like "hmmm... [put here some random thought]".
>
> Once Charles announced it will merge the ELF code into the CVS,
> DJ Delorie recalled that they should release 2.04 before adding
> new features.  I can agree with him, and let ELF code be released
> with 2.05 soon after 2.04.
>
> The interesting part was, however, that until Charles spawned the
> ELF discussion on the mailing list, nobody remembered that there is
> a 2.04 pending for a few years now.


Well, if that's the case, we _WILL_ fork. Otherwise, I'm afraid that my
Social Security will mature faster than a *theoretical* 2.05 release
ever would. Very sad. Very sad indeed.


Regards,
Ben Decker
www.caddit.net

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