From:	Hans-Bernhard Broeker <broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
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Subject:	Re: Can't Even Read File Correctly
Date:	9 Nov 2001 10:23:12 GMT
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Robert Neinast <neinast AT worldnet DOT att DOT net> wrote:

> One more question: Is there any way to start up bash so that
> the default is "binary", not "text" mode (yes, I tried looking
> in the documentation).  

No. And for a good reason, too: it's up to the programs being run to
decide what they need their input to be, not Bash.  This *is* still a
DOS platform, after all, where at least some tools still fail
miserably if the supposed text files you feed them don't have \r\n
line ends.

> It really annoys me that programs like ls, wc, and od count those
> \r\n when its only \n that's there (i.e., they give false counts).

They don't count falsely: those bytes *are* in the file, so it's none
of their business assuming they're not.  Not that the number of bytes
in a text file should ever be of importance.  All DJGPP text tools
read text file in text mode, as they should, ironing out the
difference.
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Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de)
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