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From: "Alexei A. Frounze" <alex DOT fru AT mtu-net DOT ru>
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Subject: Re: inefficiency of GCC output code & -O problem
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Gautier wrote:
> 
> "Alexei A. Frounze":
> 
> > Well, but it work with registers even when value needs to be zeroed, shifted and
> > so on. It loads registers in very simple situations, where possible to adjust
> > some bytes and we're done.
> 
> What appears to me is that among a set of time-optimising variants, GCC doesn't
> seem to choose the most space-optimising one. But maybe the values of registers
> are re-used later in your code ? Some <32 bit manipulations are said to slow
> down a lot the Pentium-class processors.

No, they are not used. At least these registers are filled in with other data
immediately after that. So... :)

> 
> > > On Intel x86s there is not much to do - there are so few registers - but
> > > anyway GCC is very smart at register mapping !
> 
> > Not a few. That's enough.
> 
> Well... but _compared_ to other processors the choice of registers is very poor.

The most awful problem is insufficiency of RAM and stack. Intel C51
microcontroller has 8 (one-byte) registers. That's enough. But it has only 128
bytes of RAM... :)

> > What's GNAT?
> 
> The GNU Ada95. You can see Ada95 as a standardized Turbo Pascal with some
> enhancements. Since type conversions are explicit (unlike TP for the 8/16/32
> bit integers), you detect the "ugly problems" at source :-).

Pascal is enough for me. I'll probably program in Delphi (visual version of
object pascal for Win32) for the 1st time. Then I'll try C++ for the same tasks.

bye.
Alexei A. Frounze
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