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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 05:31:12 +0600 (LKT)
From: Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel <kalum AT lintux DOT cx>
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Subject: Re: help with a bit stream....
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Damian Yerrick wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 05:16:23 +0600 (LKT), Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel
> <kalum AT lintux DOT cx> wrote:
> 
> >I know that GIF's suck etc..But the problem is that animated GIF's
> >are a great thing
> 
> For advertisement banners.  And that's about it.  

I'm astonished ;-) Unless you browse in text mode ;-) Damien, surely you
have seen the huge amount of sites that use animated gifs, I mean there
are sites like <http://www.animationfactory.com> offering free anim GIF's,
Then again what about the thousands of GIF animator packagers, GIF
optimizers available on the NET.



>Where else do you
> see GIF animations on professionally created sites?  Even banner ads
> are going away from the GIF format in favor of Flash animations or
> embedded HTML.

No wonder some banners take forever to load :-(
BTW How many people have the Flash animator package installed in there
browser, AFAIK most banner adds are in GIF's..


> 
> >and there is no other way to achive this other than using
> >large amounts of Javascript to do the animations...
> 
> Which can be stashed away in a .js file and called when needed.

Yes but when compare with animated GIFs which are very simple to create
see how 
1. Troublesome
2. Extra code = slower loading
3. Will break on non Javascript broswers
This method will be...
SO the easiest and the most reliable method would be to go for a animated
GIF...

> 
> >Also on this PNG VS GIF subject, how many browsers support transparent
> >PNG's?
> 
> None at the moment, but exactly why would you need a transparent
> image?  That is, unless you're making one of those slow-loading,
> annoying <BODY BACKGROUND="foo.png"> tags?  I just set the
> background color of my PNG files to the background color of my page
> (generally Readable White).


BTW <body background="foo.gif"> isn't gointo make a page slow loading if
the foo.gif is only 4k is it???? OTOH it can make the page more attractive
and beautiful instead of a eyesore. IMHO having a background image isn't
annoying to me and I'm sure that it wouldn't be annoying for a majority of
people...

The fact is that there is no browser supporting transparent PNG's, and the
fact that most (especially small images) PNG's even with maximum (9)
comression enabled cannot hope to mach the compression achived in GIF's
makes it a minus point one must say..

Grendel





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