From:	p DOT steiner AT t-online DOT de (Peter Steiner)
Newsgroups:	comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject:	Re: real-mode pointers
Date:	2 Aug 1997 16:15:34 GMT
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On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 19:35:44 -0500, Chris Frolik <frolikcc AT indy DOT net> wrote:
>Robert Hoehne wrote:
>> 
>> Shawn Hargreaves wrote:
>> >
>> > >2) Every address in memory can be accessed using the segment:offset
>> > >notation
>> >
>> > Untrue. Real mode segments are 64k in size, right? But they overlap, and
>> 
>> In general it is true, that every address is accessed using
>> segment:offset.
>> Also in a flat 32bit environment memory is accessed this way, but there
>> the segments called often selectors and the segment size may be much
>> larger than 64K.
>> 
>> BTW: This is probably not what the original poster expected to hear, but
>> it is so.

>Hmm...what about conventional memory?  The FAQ says that it uses 20-bit
>addresses, but how can it be accessed using a real-mode pointer?

What about djgppfaq.txt section 18.4 How to move data between your program
and conventional memory?
   ....
   * If you want to access a byte, a 16-bit word, or a 32-bit double word,
     use the "far pointer" functions declared on the <sys/farptr.h>' header
     file.  You should convert any real-mode far pointer segment:offset pair
     into a "linear address" (i.e., segment*16 + offset), and use dos_ds'
     or any other selector which allows access to conventional memory, like
     this:

           unsigned char value = _farpeekb(_dos_ds, segment*16 + offset);
   ....

There are also faster ways mentioned for larger buffers.

Bye,

Peter Steiner
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