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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 16:20:33 -0500
From: L Mark Larsen <lml AT atlas DOT cb DOT att DOT com>
To: webbs AT cs DOT colostate DOT edu
Subject: odd behavior - any ideas?
Cc: postmaster AT att DOT att DOT com, mark AT clipper DOT att DOT com, djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu

I received some mail that you intended to send to djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu
but which somehow ended up inside AT&T.   This is the second time this has
happened.  My attempts to get an explanation for the first occurrence went
unanswered by the AT&T gateway folks, so I thought maybe I'd try a different
approach this time.  What seems to be causing the problem is the format of
the "From:" line.  In both instances, some line has contained a series of
quoted parentheses.  Here is what yours looked like:

	From: webbs AT cs DOT colostate DOT edu(( (\) (Steven Webb \(The walking glitch\))

FYI (and for the benefit of the others) the first message was sent from 
some guy in Italy and contained this line in the header:

	Original-To: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu \(\) (\(GNU C/C++ questions\))

That's how it looked when it got to me.  The actual "To:" line had been
changed to:

	To: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu,
	        \(\) \(\)@att.att.com(\) (\(GNU C/C++ questions\))

Anway, if you follow the header, you'll see that the mail reached clarkson.edu
which then sent it to the AT&T gateway.  One question, then, is why?  Of
course, I don't expect *you* to answer that.  I'm wondering what the "From:"
line looked like when it left your machine.  Maybe you could send me a
typical sample?

Once the mail arrives at AT&T, the gateway routes it to one of my machines
(porky) telling it to send it to atlas!twuyts, with some stuff attached -
presumably the stuff in the oddly quoted parentheses.  So, more questions
are: why the AT&T gateway sends this to porky and where does it get the
"atlas!twuyts"?  The gateway folks should answer this (but didn't last time).

regards,
L. Mark Larsen
lml AT atlas DOT att DOT com

P.S.
I'm including the actual message in case (as it appears) "djgpp" didn't see
it.

# From porky!MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jan 19 12:29:20 EST 1994
# Received: by atlas.cb.att.com
# 	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12163; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:29:19 -0500
# Return-Path: <porky!MAILER-DAEMON>
# Received: from porky with uucp; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:30:28
# Received: by porky.cb.att.com
# 	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29873; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:30:28 -0500
# Received: by porky.cb.att.com
# 	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AB29860; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:30:23 -0500
# Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 08:41:47 -0700 (MST)
# From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <porky!MAILER-DAEMON>
# Subject: Unable to return to sender (Returned Mail: Unable to deliver mail)
# To: Postmaster AT atlas DOT cb DOT att DOT com
# Status: R
# 
#    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
# 554 Unbalanced '('
# 554 atlas!twuyts... Unbalanced '('
# 554 atlas!twuyts... Unbalanced '('
# 
#    ----- Unsent message follows -----
# Received: by porky.cb.att.com
# 	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29859; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:30:23 -0500
# Received: from cbfsb.cb.att.com by porky.cb.att.com with SMTP
# 	(1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29854; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:30:22 -0500
# Received: from att!sun.soe.clarkson.edu by cbfsb.cb.att.com (4.1/EMS-1.0.1 main.cf 1.37 10/5/93 (SMI-4.1/SVR4))
# 	id AA01670; Wed, 19 Jan 94 12:28:23 EST
# Received: by att.att.com; Wed Jan 19 12:26:17 EST 1994
# Received: from sun.soe.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu with SMTP (PP) 
#           id <10018-0 AT omnigate DOT clarkson DOT edu>; Tue, 19 Jan 1993 11:16:40 -0500
# Received: by sun.soe.clarkson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19130;
#           Wed, 19 Jan 94 10:45:15 EST
# Return-Path: <webbs AT mozart DOT CS DOT ColoState DOT EDU>
# Received: from yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU by sun.soe.clarkson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) 
#           id AA19091; Wed, 19 Jan 94 10:44:30 EST
# Received: from mozart.cs.colostate.edu 
#           by yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA74582;
#           Wed, 19 Jan 1994 08:41:48 -0700
# Received: by mozart.CS.ColoState.EDU (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13711;
#           Wed, 19 Jan 94 08:41:48 -0700
# From: webbs AT cs DOT colostate DOT edu(( (\) (Steven Webb \(The walking glitch\))
# Message-Id: <9401191541 DOT AA13711 AT mozart DOT CS DOT ColoState DOT EDU>
# Subject: How about the new GRX lib? Is it being worked on?
# To: djgpp AT sun DOT soe DOT clarkson DOT edu
# Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 08:41:47 -0700 (MST)
# X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22]
# Content-Type: text
# 
# 
# 	I've got an Orchid Fahrenheit 1280+, and all of the new drivers
# 	that came with 1.11 only show Black and White with my card.  I'm using
# 	the VESA drivers for the time being, but when I got the 1.11 release
# 	there was mention about a new GRX library that was soon to be released.
# 
# 	My problem is that the VESA lib doesn't support many things, and it's
# 	the season to whine and complain about things, so I am.
# 
# 	Just wondering...  I have lots of ideas that I want to implement, OH
# 	another thing...  When the new GRX library is released, will it have
# 	S3-specific commands too?  or will we have to actually code the "block-
# 	move" routines and such?
# 
# 	Thanks again.
# 
# 	-- Steve
# 

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