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On 2026-01-01 10:17, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote:
>> since when is it acceptable to have UTF-8 format files as shell scripts,
>> perl scripts or even python programs?

> Since… forever?
> UTF-8 is compatible with ASCII on that level.

As a Russian user, I suspect you were happier than most when Unicode reduced the 
number of character sets you had to deal with.

>> Same needs to be asked about the person/committee that came up with UTF8.

> I suggest the https://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html for an answer.

Takes me back to days of dealing with US/UK keyboard and character set 
differences, DEC ASCII/IBM EBCDIC differences, different EBCDIC device code 
pages, DEC/Unix/Mac line differences, multiple each DEC/IBM/Unix OSes, passing 
documents between them, and porting software to convert the documents.

Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh! ;^> Bless Unicode and UTF-8! Happy New Year!

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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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