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Date:	Mon, 28 Jul 2025 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject:	Re: new c++ new/delete overloads need wrapping?
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:

> On Jul 25 11:05, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jul 2025, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 24 22:41, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin wrote:
> > > > I was looking into C++ new/delete --wrap linker options, and noticed that
> > > > in a quick test the wrapper for delete was not being called.  This was
> > > > because delete is being compiled to _ZdlPvm and that symbol is not present
> > > > in the --wrap arguments in the GCC spec, and is not part of the
> > > > per_process_cxx_malloc struct.  I'm not seeing anything in that cxx_malloc
> > > > struct like a size or version number, so I don't know a good way to
> > > > extend it given that it is part of the startup code linked into every
> > > > binary.
> > > >
> > > But first I have to tell you that I'm fuzzy on how this exactly is
> > > working together.  I can't tell you how this affects GCC or LD.
> >
> > Here's my understanding so far:
> > GCC's spec for linking on Cygwin includes several --wrap X, one for each
> > of these symbols.  What this parameter does in LD is that any references
> > to symbol X are rewritten to __wrap_X, and a definition of X is rewritten
> > to __real_X.  The Cygwin DLL exports the __wrap_X symbols, so any callers
> > will end up there.
> >
> > In order to detect attempts to override the symbols, the Cygwin startup
> > code defines weak symbols for them with asm redirecting to the __real_X
> > names, and initializes a struct with pointers to them.  These will be NULL
> > if the symbols are not defined.  Interestingly, this seems to not count
> > the jump stubs when the symbols are pulled in from a DLL.  (Neither of
> > these things are true right now with LLD... Bugs, I guess).  This struct
> > is then merged and copied to the Cygwin DLL's struct, which is used to
> > dispatch calls in the __wrap_X functions.
> >
> > As such, I believe that Cygwin would need to be updated first to provide
> > the __wrap_X functions, and then GCC would need to be updated to add the
> > --wrap X linker parameters because that would then reference those
> > symbols.  I believe GCC after that change would be incompatible with
> > Cygwin before the new symbols are exported, if those symbols are
> > referenced (and I was seeing one of the new delete symbols referenced by a
> > simple delete p; of a scalar, so it may be something a newer now-default
> > C++ version does).
>
> Unless there's some automatism referencing the __wrap_X functions even
> if the --wrap option isn't present, I don't see this incompatibility as
> much of a problem.  We're trying to maintain backward compat, but that
> doesn't mean an executable created under  and for a newer Cygwin DLL
> has to run under an older DLL.

OK, then the patch adds support for wrapping these functions ends up in a
stable Cygwin release, then GCC is updated to add additional --wrap
parameters for them, and that GCC and binaries it produces will no longer
be compatible with older Cygwin DLLs.  libstdc++ will need to be rebuilt
for that GCC, but this is a time when it's handy that libstdc++ is built
as part of GCC so that's automatic.

Clang & libc++ will need the same treatment.

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