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 Ar an naoú lá is fiche de mí Meitheamh, scríobh Eliot Moss: 

 > On 6/29/2025 12:01 PM, Aidan Kehoe via Cygwin wrote:
 >
 > > I am the maintainer of XEmacs; I have recently made a beta release and
 > > that beta release has no complication or exection problems that are
 > > specifically related to 64-bit Cygwin.
 > > 
 > > Dan Harkless advises me that there is no current 64-bit Cygwin XEmacs
 > > package and that a 32-bit Cygwin XEmacs package remains available. Is
 > > there someone who might be interested in maintaining a 64-bit Cygwin
 > > XEmacs? If not, I am happy to take that on.
 > 
 > Dear Aidan - Would you *prefer* to do it yourself, or be at least as happy
 > if someone else takes it on?

The project is not flush with resources and I’m always going to be more
effective per hour spent at the core XEmacs work that is mainly C and Lisp. If
someone else were to take it on that would be very welcome, but if not, I
value having Cygwin users use the program and would be capable of the
packaging work.

 > Is there a current maintainer for 32-bit XEmacs?  That person might be
 > logical to support 64-bit as well.

I believe the package is unmaintained.

 > On a somewhat different tack: Is XEmacs now being more actively developed?

Yes; I finished a fairly intense decade of medical training and specialty
exams, my life is a bit more stable and I have had far time to put in to
XEmacs development since 2021. Two beta releases since then, plenty of
work. Mats Lidell is also consistently working on it (chiefly as the Gentoo
packager, bits and pieces at the core code), I’ve had help from Jaakko
Salomaa, Richard Hopkins, and more recently Alan Mackenzie.

https://foss.heptapod.net/xemacs/xemacs/-/commits/branch/default?ref_type=heads

 > Web commentary from four years ago suggested that its development pretty
 > much stopped ...  [Note: Certainly not intending to step into the middle
 > of any contention about Emacs vs XEmacs!]

I’m glad for GNU Emacs, as a project it’s doing a lot better than it used to
back its old leadership was more central to the decision making.

Best,

Aidan

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