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On Tue, 2025-01-07 at 17:56 +0100, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:
> On 07/01/2025 14:42, Rainer Emrich wrote:
> > I played a bit around and tried to install severall python
> > packages.
> > There seems to be a severe issue, because an increasing number of
> > python
> > packages need a working rust compiler to build. And AFAIK there is
> > no
> > rust compiler for cygwin at the moment.
> >
>
> that I can not solve :-(
>
> Porting a compiler to Cygwin with a not collaborating upstream
> developer team is a major major effort
>
>

I feel this issue is more acute. Using rust isn't just happening in
Python / PyPi Land. This is happening in Ruby and common C/C++
libraries. I have also encountered this technique with Go but no where
near the frequency like I have with Rust. AFAIK, go doesn't target
Cygwin either.

I did find some folks discussing what it would take for Rust to target
a new platform in Git Hub issues (I _think_, it's been over a year
since I spent some effort looking into this). They were in fact
discussing Cygwin.

I am not going to say the Sky Is Falling, it certainly isn't, but it
does feel like Cygwin is traveling down a road that will intersect with
Rust and there will be a train wreck. IMHO of course...

Because I was struggling with this issue, I decided to leave Windows
for Fedora, but YMMV. I know not everyone who uses Cygwin can switch to
something like Fedora.

Many Thanks to all the Cygwin contribs for the Python ecosystem and
cygbuild. I used and was quite happy with Cygwin for a long time. It Is
Good Stuff, IMHO.

/allen

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