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Date:	Mon, 26 Feb 2024 13:16:18 +0000
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Subject:	Re: LXDE rears its ugly head :-)
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On 24/02/2024 23:31, sciguy via Cygwin wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am using Cygwin-X on Windows 10. It is a version from around 2020 or 
> so. The window managers (I have a few that I have installed) seem to 
> work, but it appears that LXDE likes to cover the toolbars and menubars, 
> especially when GNOME is supposed to be running. Even if I "log off" of 
> LXDE (which doesn't have any effect on GNOME), the LXDE toolbar, after a 
> few minutes, covers the native GNOME toolbar.

Can you perhaps explain how you are starting the session where you see 
this problem?

It should only be possible to have one window manager running at a time 
on a given X display, so I'm not quite sure what you are describing here.

> In fact, the GNOME toolbar can be exposed, but like a game of 
> peek-a-boo, the LXDE toolbar reappears when my mouse moves close to it. 
> It also shows up under KDE (which doesn't seem to have a working 
> toolbar). If I run fluxbox, there is no LXDE running.
> 
> Is there supposed to be a reason why a LXDE toolbar has to appear in a 
> non-LXDE window manager? Is there somewhere where I can turn off this 
> setting (assuming that's all there is).

I assume this is something in the Xsession init scripts (which are 
unfortunately complex) which is launching the "toolbar" unconditionally.

Unless you want to dive into those, uninstalling the package which 
provides the unwanted program might be the way to go.


I'm afraid all the "Desktop Environments" we currently ship are rather 
old and unmaintained.  Somewhere in my vast backlog of stuff, I'd like 
to (a) remove the heavyweight ones i.e. GNOME and KDE, and (b) update 
the others which are actually used by someone.  But that seems 
increasingly unlikely to happen.


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