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On 2023-06-11 11:58, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote:
> On 30/05/2023 20:55, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote:
>> On 2023-05-30 06:21, Jon Turney via Cygwin wrote:
>>> On 29/05/2023 23:42, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote:
>>>> On 2023-05-29 16:06, akakima via Cygwin wrote:
>>>>> Does such a place exist (beside fruitbat) ?
>>>>
>>>> Appears the master and all mirrors have stub setup.ini and nothing else!
>>>> Only private mirrors like fruitbat are likely to maintain history.
>>>
>>> This answer is wrong is almost every particular.
>>
>> Good - nothing like a definitely wrong statement in a post to bring out an 
>> illuminating correction in a reply!
> 
> No, we're not going to play that game.  Posting misinformation doesn't oblige me 
> to provide a correction (because that's an easily exploitable infinite time sink).

Sorry if you misinterpreted my jocular attempt to lighten the tone in response 
to your flame!

> Please avoid making definitive statements you don't know to be true on this list 
> in future.

As volunteer contributors, we all contribute where we can, and my statements 
were far from definitive, leaving room for more knowledgeable contributors to 
respond in their own timeframe, if they could.

As I am neither a logician or mathematician, I never claim to make definitive 
statements or anything that is true, only contributions to the best of my 
admittedly limited ability and imperfect knowledge.

As far as I, and possibly many others, were aware, fruitbat was the only known 
legacy archive.

>>> I went to a some effort to maintain an accessible archive of the last 32-bit 
>>> cygwin (See [1]).
>>>
>>> Please don't spread misinformation.

I feel you overreacted inappropriately in both your previous and latest replies.

>> Both the OP and myself, and likely others, missed the alternative:
>> I just went back and reread it a few times, and finally got the point;
>> also in the Install FAQ - I just noticed it third time thru, after searching 
>> the page for "sourceware".
>>
> [...]
>>
>>    An incomplete list of sourceware mirrors is available at:
>>
>>      https://sourceware.org/mirrors.html
>>
>>    (Not all sourceware mirrors may carry the cygwin-archive mirror.)
> 
> Again, this is wrong.
> 
> sourceware mirrors by definition mirror the entire "ftp directory" from sourceware.

Then it appears that list of Sourceware mirrors should be updated as the listed 
mirror of funet.fi:

	https://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/pub/

has neither a current Cygwin mirror nor any cygwin-archive mirror, and may not 
have any current Sourceware mirrors from what I see.
However I see that site has a Cygwin mirror which is under a current Sourceware 
mirror including /cygwin-archive/20221123/:

	https://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/sourceware.org/pub/

[BTW mirrors.kernel.org appears to have dropped FTP (no response and not in 
Cygwin mirrors); also sourceware.org/cygwin link no longer appears to redirect 
to cygwin.com, although it does show the Cygwin home page, so most of the home 
page nav bar links do not appear to work correctly, giving 404 or an equivalent 
Sourceware page, unless the Cygwin and Sourceware site paths match FYI]

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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer     but when there is no more to cut
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