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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 10:24 PM Christopher Faylor <
cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:26:18AM -0700, Russell VT wrote:
> >Can one of you powerful folks, please, fix the signup approvals and
> >make it a bit more difficult to signup and account that is "allowed" to
> >post on this list?
>
> The cygwin list has been open for around 23 years or so.


Indeed... this is a crucial point, actually.


> Making the
> list subscriber-only (which seems to be what you're asking for) raises
> the barrier to asking questions and impedes the purpose of a "help"
> mailing list.


I was actually talking maybe "one-step-over" subscriber-only (going back to
the general Majordomo premise of "anyone can subscribe/unsubscribe anyone,
with enough ingenuity and desire. So, being "on" the list isn't really a
factor, in that it's trivial to spoof all the "important" sides of the
conversation.

That said, GIVEN the age of this mailing list, with "a well-known name and
a long history," there's probably not a single public advertised email
address, at such an old and well-known domain, that isn't literally
pummeled with SPAM, daily. It's already remarkable how little spam we see
here... so, there's clearly *more* happening here.

In short, spammers scripts are likely "figuring out" how to bypass the
signup features on the older Mailman Python scripts, and are getting around
the captchas or whatever else is in-place on this "not-too-terribly-old"
version.

FWIW, I've also been noticing more form-spam, lately, that's managed to get
through a couple of my own sites. So, time to make things session based,
and multiple interlaced pages (also, those are amusing logs to monitor...
but, I digress).



> Moderation is an option but I doubt anyone really wants
> to moderate every message here.
>

Can't say I would disagree, though back it the time, I've seen teams easily
handle higher traffic lists with a pretty small moderation team.


>
> cgf
> -- cygwin.com/sourceware.org administrator
>
>

-- 
Russell M. Van Tassell <russellvt AT gmail DOT com>

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