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From:	Marco Atzeri via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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On 22.01.2021 17:15, Anthony Heading wrote:
> Hi Brian!
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> either something has not completed correctly, or something is missing in recent
>> installations.
> 
> I think that's right.  Those the directories which are referenced in the binary,  I know the generic upstream perl source process has always created them,  but they're not included in the current cygwin package.   As a total guess, empty directories are maybe now being elided in the cygwin packaging process?
> 
> % strings - /bin/cygperl5_30.dll  | grep /usr/local
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30/x86_64-cygwin-threads
> /usr/local/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30
> 
> % cygcheck -p site_perl
> Found 4 matches for site_perl
> grepmail-5.3033-2 - grepmail: search mailboxes for mail matching an expression (installed binaries and support files)
> perl-Stow-2.3.1-1 - perl-Stow: perl library for stow
> perl-Stow-2.3.1-2 - perl-Stow: Perl library for stow
> perl-Stow-2.3.1-3 - perl-Stow: Perl library for stow

not on usr/local

perl-Stow: Perl library for stow

     2020-02-04 19:14           0 usr/share/perl5/
     2020-02-04 19:14           0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/
     2020-02-04 19:14           0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/
     2020-02-04 19:14           0 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/
     2020-02-04 19:14        5559 
usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow/Util.pm
     2020-02-04 19:14       70081 usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.30/Stow.pm


>> no package should touch them
> 
> Marco,  I have no idea how to interpret that statement constructively.

Sorry, I should have be more clear.

We can discuss if the perl package should deliver empty directories like

     usr/share/perl5/site_perl/

and similar. It seems reasonable but I am not a Perl expert, however
a distribution package should never write on "/usr/local"

https://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/usr.html

" The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when 
installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten 
when the system software is updated"

Regards
Marco

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