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On 11/24/20 11:35 AM, sten DOT kristian DOT ivarsson AT gmail DOT com wrote:
> [snip]
>=20
>> std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where
>> backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept =
your
>> demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow Windows spec=
ific
>> code?
>=20
> I've been trying to say over and over again that our code doesn't handl=
e any Windows specific stuff and not anywhere have I claimed that anyone =
else need to handle Windows specific stuff either (except for the interna=
ls of Cygwin of which Windows specific logic is already present)
>=20
> I repeat; I don't expect any of the Cygwin-Posix-functions to accept an=
y Windows-style-paths (though some of them, as I repeatedly have said, al=
ready does so) and I only expect that I can operate according to the C++-=
standard on an instantiated std::filesystem::path
>=20

How do you expect std::filesystem to do that when Windows paths are not=20
even accepted in API calls?

>> Make it try to enter subdirectories every time std::filesystem is
>> called?
>>
>> You refuse to understand that Cygwin is NOT Windows, it is a POSIX
>> platform. Using Cygwin means complying with POSIX expectations and
>> standards.
>>
>> I don't see how this conversation can continue if you still refuse to =
see
>> Cygwin as something separate from Windows. Besides, you have already
>> answered your question by ruling out MinGW, so Microsoft Visual Studio=
 it
>> is.
>=20
> I repeat (again); neither MinGW/MSVS is an option because we're trying =
to use Posix and C++
>=20
> Just to be clear:
>=20
> - Our code DOESN'T handle Windows-style-paths explicitly in any way
> - We DON'T expect Cygwin-Posix-file-related-functions to accept Windows=
-style-paths
> - We WOULD like std::filesystem to work according to the C++ ISO standa=
rd

Why would std::filesystem be an exception? How would it know if a=20
backslash is part of a name and not a separator? How does it know when=20
to apply exceptions? What about mixed paths?

The C++ standard mentions separators, not specific characters, and the=20
forward slash is used under Cygwin, not the Windows backslash.

The bigger question would be how would you expect a Cygwin application=20
to even accept a Windows paths. It should use *nix paths, as all Cygwin=20
programs do.

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