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Subject: Re: Default mingw _WIN32_WINNT
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Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:53:58 -0400
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On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 10:55 -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> On 2020-05-05 5:05 am, Rainer Emrich wrote:
> > Am 05.05.2020 um 10:54 schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
> > > Therefore it might be a good idea to bump the default for these
> > > Cygwin-related headers to at least 0x0600.
> > > 
> > > Setting them to 0x0602 sounds like a good idea, but as long as we didn't
> > > drop Vista or W7 support it might be premature.
> > > 
> > > Btw., checking Cygwin sources for Vista and W7-specific code, it turned
> > > out that actually very few lines of code handle Vista or W7-specific
> > > workarounds.  The advantage of removing the code is pretty minor, so I
> > > didn't push the changes.  While it's a bad idea to keep Vista and W7
> > > running (at least attached to the internet), we can support them a while
> > > longer.
> > I would expect support for Windows 7 as long as the Micsrosoft ESU
> > program is active.

We don't work for Microsoft, so as an independent project, we'll
support Windows 7 only as long as we feel is viable and valuable.  As
Corinna said, for now that's the case, but nobody here is guaranteeing
anything beyond that.

> I would just like to chime in that it would be a crying shame if Cygwin 
> were to ever drop support for Windows 7.  There are many people, myself 
> one, who are dead set against Windows 10.

"Ever"?!?  You do realize that, ESU aside, Windows 7 is out of support
and therefore should be assumed to be vulnerable?

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Yaakov


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