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Date:	Tue, 3 Sep 2019 07:38:09 +0200
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Subject:	Re: Bug report: Killing a native process may not actually kill it
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2019, 02:38 Steven Penny, <svnpenn AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:57:23, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> > My original post contained a link to a patch allowing for Cygwin to
> > correctly terminate native Windows processes.  I understand it is not
> the
> > position of the Cygwin project to deal with situation, so I think we can
> > just let it drop.
>
> I would like to say that I support this, if it can be done in a reasonable
> way.
>
> Ive been reading this thread carefully, and Ive yet to see anyone comment
> on the
> merits of the patch. Apologies if Ive overlooked it.
>
> To me, the first and only question that matters is "does it solve more
> problems
> than it causes". If the answer is yes, I think the patch should be
> accepted.
> Else I think its unfair to prematurely end the discussion.
>
> Cygwin has a long history of... putting Cygwin first. I dont mean this as a
> negative, although I do disagree with the sentiment. Any compiling is with
> Cygwin target as first class citizen, then native Windows has always been
> an
> afterthought. I think this is why the MinGW survived as long as it did, and
> while the MSYS2 project enjoys the popularity it has today. With MSYS2, the
> "Cygwin" mode is still primary, but you can launch "mingw64.exe" and native
> Windows becomes the default.
>

We can consider the patch at msys2 also if you wish to propose it.

>
> If Cygwin wishes to remain insular in regard to this and other native
> Windows
> issues, thats their choice. It does make development significantly easier I
> assume. However I think in doing so it alienates significant portion of the
> userbase.
>
>
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