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Date:	Mon, 18 Mar 2019 23:18:21 -0600
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On 2019-03-18 22:38, Mark Geisert wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 01:55:36 -0700, Jim Fehrle wrote:
>> Mark Geisert wrote:
>>> Here are mine:
>>> /c/staging ls -l Cygwin??/setup*.exe
>>> -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 Mark None 1171475 Dec 20 01:18 Cygwin32/setup-x86.exe*
>>> -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 Mark None 1224211 Dec 20 01:17 Cygwin64/setup-x86_64.exe*
>>> Check the size of your v2.895 against the last line above. If it's 
>>> different, you may not have the recent version you think.  I don't want
>>> to speculate why.
>>> How did you download?  Is there a proxy cache in the way?
>> The file length matches exactly.
>> I downloaded by clicking the link at https://cygwin.com/.  No idea about a
>> proxy server.  Is that something an ISP might set up?  I'm working from my
>> home, not an office.  Not work-related.
> Well, having the file size match means you've probably got the latest
> setup-x86_64.exe.  That argues against a proxy cache being in the way.
> FWIW the times shown for my files are the times I downloaded them from the
> Cygwin website, same way you did.  So I can't reproduce what you're seeing.
> I'm out of ideas.  Sorry :-).

With what utilities and options were the files uploaded and downloaded?
Probably depends on the sourceware.org network file server metadata which seems
consistently wacky: Cygwin time machine using Julian month Dec==10?
Possibly from building over test V2.894 on your machine then uploading via lftp
or alternatives.

$ stat mirror/x86_64/setup-x86_64.exe
  File: mirror/x86_64/setup-x86_64.exe
  Size: 1224211         Blocks: 1196       IO Block: 65536  regular file
Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d     Inode: 17451448557505386  Links: 1
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (uuuuuu/   $USER)   Gid: (  545/   Users)
Access: 2018-12-17 17:56:40.000000000 -0700
Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:14.000000000 -0600
Change: 2018-12-17 17:56:40.925576800 -0700
 Birth: 2017-12-19 23:10:28.037705900 -0700
$ wget -N -P /tmp/ https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe{,.sig}
$ stat /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe{,.sig}
  File: /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe
  Size: 1224211         Blocks: 1196       IO Block: 65536  regular file
Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d     Inode: 25614222881940454  Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (uuuuuu/   $USER)   Gid: (  545/   Users)
Access: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.000000000 -0600
Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:14.000000000 -0600
Change: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.784884100 -0600
 Birth: 2019-03-18 22:53:36.878740000 -0600
  File: /tmp/setup-x86_64.exe.sig
  Size: 72              Blocks: 1          IO Block: 65536  regular file
Device: 6b8d438h/112776248d     Inode: 52354345669496533  Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (uuuuuu/   $USER)   Gid: (  545/   Users)
Access: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.000000000 -0600
Modify: 2018-10-21 10:02:34.000000000 -0600
Change: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.878670500 -0600
 Birth: 2019-03-18 22:53:38.862994200 -0600

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