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From:	Dan Kegel <dank AT kegel DOT com>
Date:	Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:09:59 -0800
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Subject:	Re: Drop Vista Support? (Was: hangs in 20181129 snapshot hopefully fixed)
To:	Brian DOT Inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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For what it's worth:
Vista does not even rise above the noise at
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
and is just barely present at
https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?id=platformsDesktopVersions

If I were still supporting Vista on anything, I'd be thinking
seriously about dropping it like a stone.
- Dan
On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:36 PM Brian Inglis
<Brian DOT Inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca> wrote:
>
> On 2018-12-01 07:44, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > (*) Do we still have any Vista users on this list?
> >     Or can we just pull the plug on Vista support?
>
> Vista extended support ended 18 months ago; standard support 5 years before; all
> browsers but Opera and Lunascape (and IE9 on Vista SP2) dropped support for
> Vista and XP 6 months ago or earlier; estimates of remaining Vista users are an
> order of magnitude less than XP users:
>
> W10 ~ W7 ~45% each >> W8.1 ~ XP ~5% each > W8 ~1% > Vista ~.3-.6% or 1/166-333
> systems * setup exe download annual unique IP count?
>
> Does anyone do regular analysis of sourceware access logs to justify support?
> What do the sourceware setup exe download and/or mailing list user agent strings
> tell you?
>
> N.B. W7/2008 extended (security) support ends in just over a year.
>      Start migrating those systems to VMs behind firewalls.
>      MS describes this as $100G opportunity (AKA user cost)!
>
> --
> Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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