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On Fri, 4 May 2018 15:16:49, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> I do not see you doing any package activity release, so you should refrain to
> comment on how we (package maintainers) use our own spare time for this
> project.

such comments are perfectly acceptable if maintainers are acting in bad faith
with regard to packages. no one is perfect, certainly not myself. and if the
person in question is a maintainer of an important package, for example GCC or
Ruby, it is not acceptable for them to let a year or 2 go by without an update.

if they are worried about bugs, cygwin has a system in place for many years now
to deal with that. you make a package "[test]", so that people can test it. if
a maintainer cannot faithfully keep up with a package at least once a year,
that person should step aside as im sure other would be willing (myself
included) to take up maintainership of said packages.

> Please note that sometime, things are broken upstream
> and it takes time and it could require not available capability to
> solve the issues.
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/fortran/2018-03/msg00014.html

sorry, did you really just invoke fortran as a serious argument? fortran is
arguably the oldest programming language still in use, if you can even call it
that. you cant even do HTTP with it:

http://rosettacode.org/wiki/HTTPS#Fortran

youll notice that ADA already got the axe:

http://github.com/cygwinports/cygwin64-gcc/blob/master/cygwin64-gcc.cygport#L52

this could happen to fortran as well.

> If you want to help for a new package release that you care,
> try to build it, check that every thing is in place,
> provide if needed patches and guidance and I am almost sure
> the relative maintainer will appreciate your effort.
> I surely did
> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2018-02/msg00142.html

so did i:

http://github.com/svnpenn/glade/tree/master/mingw-w64-x86-64/gcc

my GCC build is done, as soon as I finish my G++ build, I had planned to publish
my recipe, but i guess now is as good time as any. i dont have the patch files
as ive seen with other build, so im sure i am missing something.


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