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Subject: Re: setup graphical chooser : how to list orphaned packages ?
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From: cyg Simple <cygsimple AT gmail DOT com>
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 09:32:10 -0400
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On 10/15/2017 12:10 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 10/15/2017 12:24 AM, cyg Simple wrote:
>> On 10/14/2017 12:11 PM, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>> On 14/10/2017 17:31, cyg Simple wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is very common.  Suppose you have package A installed, which
>>>>> requires B.  Package B gets obsoleted by C.  But A still requires B
>>>>> until someone (usually the maintainer of A) changes this to make A
>>>>> require C instead.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a column showing what installed packages are depending on B and a
>>>> column showing the dependencies for package A would be nice?  It would
>>>> help clear the confusion anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> the cygcheck-dep package can provide dependencies information,
>>> I do not see the need for setup to do it
>>>
>>
>> So the information is available just in a different place than where it
>> should be, the tool I'm using to do the download.  Having a separate
>> package to tell me the package dependencies isn't very friendly; I might
>> not have anything installed, certainly not cygcheck-dep and then I have
>> to learn and remember to use it as a side step of installation.
> 
> I think most users would be distracted by seeing the dependencies
> displayed and would have no need for this information.  On the rare
> occasions when they are surprised that something got installed, they can
> use cygcheck-dep (or ask on the list) to find the reason.
> 

So it becomes one of the optional visible fields.  I don't think the
information would be rarely used though, it might help me not have to
search for a package that is going to be installed anyway because I
chose a primary package.  The information has to be useful or
cygcheck-dep wouldn't exist.

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