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Subject:	Re: Fwd: Re: DMARC - gmail.com or is it yahoo.com
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From:	David Macek <david DOT macek DOT 0 AT gmail DOT com>
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On 10. 12. 2016 21:39, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:00:12AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:55:49AM -0500, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
>>> cygsimple wrote:
>>>> See the description below of a problem that is occurring because of
>>>> DMARC rules in place by yahoo.com.  Is there anything you can do for t=
his?
>>>
>>> cgf, any chance of updating our copy of ezmlm-toaster etc.?
>>> Newer-than-2014 versions of ezmlm-idx seem to have some DMARC
>>> capabilities.
>>
>> I started looking at this when it came in.  No ETA yet.
>=20
> Huh.  I thought I sent an update about this but it vanished in the aether.

FWIW, I received a message on [Thu, 8 Dec 2016 21:14:41 -0800 (PST)]:

> I'm going to use start using a new version of ezmlm-send on Friday.  It w=
ill
> rewrite the From addresses of any domain which wants to use DMARC.  From =
what
> I've read, that should stop yahoo and gmail from complaining.

> I just turned on a new DMARC-aware version of ezmlm-send which rewrites
> the From address for any domain that is DMARC sensitive to something like:
>=20
> "User name via mailinglist <mailinglist AT sourceware DOT org>"
>=20
> when the mail is broadcast to the mailing list.  I would have done this
> sooner but my ezmlm skills were really rusty and I almost ran out of
> extremities to shoot.

Thanks. By the way, does that include domains with SPF?

> Please send any errors or issues encountered to overseers AT sourceware DOT org.

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David Macek


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