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On 11/19/2016 1:49 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 11/19/2016 10:50 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/2016 9:41 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> [Please keep the discussion on the mailing list.]
>>>
>>> On 11/19/2016 9:19 AM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/19/2016 8:42 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>> On 11/18/2016 6:52 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 1:35 PM, Tim Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2016 10:31 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin
>>>>>>>>> distribution:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *** xorg-server-*1.19.0-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still haven't learned how to make it start on Win8.1 or 10:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> But I don't see it opening an X display, and the taskbar icon
>>>>>>>> disappears
>>>>>>>> after a few seconds.  May be missing the important user advice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you looked for the xwin-xdg-icon in your hidden icons?  It's a
>>>>>>> black C superimposed over a green X.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The icon stays up in the hidden icons. but seems to have little use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't you get a menu when you click on it?
>>>>>
>>>> That menu has the option to shut down xserver or view documentation
>>>> but
>>>> not to open an xterm.
>>>
>>> I don't think we're talking about the same icon.  The one I referred
>>> to is a black C superimposed over a green X, and it has many options
>>> to start programs, including XTerm (under System Tools).  It's started
>>> by the xwin-xdg-icon program, which in turn is started by
>>> /etc/X11/xinit/startxwinrc (unless you have a ~/.startxwinrc that
>>> overrides it).  Does 'ps' show that xwin-xdg-icon is running?
>>>
>>>
>> I have occasionally got the xdg icon from which xterm can be started,
>> but I haven't found a reproducible way to bring it up.
>
> Sorry, but I'm confused now.  When you say "xdg icon", are you talking
> about the one I described?  Your previous message said you've never
> seen that icon.  Are you now saying that it does appear, but only
> occasionally?  Do you shut down the X server and retry when it doesn't
> appear?
>
It seems necessary to reboot to get a clean start with no related
processes, unless there's a magic cleanup command.  I agree it may be
necessary to try it from clean start.

-- 
Tim Prince


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