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Date: | Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:49:19 -0400 |
From: | John Cowan <cowan AT mercury DOT ccil DOT org> |
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Subject: | Re: native Linux userland in Windows 10 |
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Warren Young scripsit: > Third, given a choice between the Cygwin package repo and the Ubuntu > package repo, well, no contest, yes? That’s also why Ubuntu and > not, say, Fedora or Arch; Microsoft chose the biggest single package > repo available. I'm not so sure of that. Canonical is fairly friendly to non-FLOSS software, although the great bulk of the distro is of course FLOSS. It may be a matter of who MS thought they could best work with. > But to drag all of this back on topic, UfW is Microsoft saying, > “Yes, we know we screwed up. Please accept this full apology.” A > whole lot of people are going to accept that gratefully. Ever since I had to switch to Win64, I've missed CoLinux (which apparently is no longer being developed). UoW, once the bugs are flushed, will look a lot like that: the Windows filesystem is visible but the Win32 executables don't work. (Wine on UoW? Who knows?) > Under PowerShell, you run a command line, get a given output, but then > still have no obvious solution because the command’s representation > may materially change in a pipeline, so now you have to go chasing > through the MSDN docs or reflection APIs to work out how to crawl its > list-of-objects representation. There are of course a few Posix commands like that, notably ls. It's just that we are used to them, and they usually do the Right Thing when the output is not a tty. > UfW will be completely independent of Cygwin. More’s the pity, > because it means you’ll be incentivized to choose one or the other, > likely to Cygwin’s net detriment. Based on my CoLinux experience, I expect I'll keep Cygwin but won't use it as much as I do today. It will still be indispensable for some things. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan AT ccil DOT org Not to perambulate the corridors during the hours of repose in the boots of ascension. --Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
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