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On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:20 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
> Well, it was *you* asking "How could we prove that the problem is the
> Apple SMB server?"  I was just trying to help.  If that's not desired,
> I don't have to.

I shouldn’t have suggested attacking the problem at the SMB protocol layer to begin with.  That requires the sort of expertise that the Samba and Apple developers have, and I doubt I can get access to either.  Since I’m not going to go and acquire such expertise myself just to answer the question, it’s a hopeless line of inquiry.

Instead, it would be better if we can refine the Windows API C code we’ve been playing with to show the problem.  Then I can attach it to an Apple bug report. I’m sure they like STCs, too. :)

I’ve made the suggested changes to the program, here:

  http://pastebin.com/uZdDZPgi

Is that enough to take to Apple?  I mean, does this let them wiggle out and say, “You’re doing it wrong”?

>>>>> HANDLE handle = CreateFile ("P:\\", ...);
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I’m not seeing what values to pass to CreateFile()
>>> 
>>> Opening a directory requires to use the FILE_FLAG_BACKUP_SEMANTICS
>>> flag.
>> 
>> Yes, silly me for not guessing that Windows requires that I tell it I
>> am about to do a backup before I attempt to open a directory for
>> reading.  What was so wrong about the design of opendir() that MS had
>> to reinvent it this way?
> 
> Think DOS/early Windows.  CreateFile was not meant to open directories
> to perform a directory search

I was reacting more to the revelation that Windows has workarounds for the known-problematic file access semantics, and that they’re specifically labeled as “for backup programs” when in reality they’re just ad hoc post facto fixes to a poorly thought out initial design.

They’ve reinvented Unix, poorly.
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