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Subject:	Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: Tcl/Tk 8.5.18
From:	Steven Penny <svnpenn AT gmail DOT com>
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On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:
> I undid those to make it pure *NIX/X11 again, as it should on Cygwin.

I started using Tcl/Tk in 2011.

February 2012 the change hit
https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2012-02/msg00115.html

By June 2012 I had found a workaround for using GDI instead of X11
http://github.com/svnpenn/a/blob/a01fe1e/build/win32/tcl-tk/tcl-tk-cygwin.sh
http://stackoverflow.com/revisions/13171210/6

and have been using different versions of that script since. Installing Tcl/Tk
with X11 is non-trivial:

    tcl           2,181,674
    tcl-tk        5,691,785
    libX11_6        745,228
    libXau6          18,626
    libXdmcp6       124,932
    libXext6        220,188
    libXft2          42,224
    libXrender1      29,180
    libXss1          13,892
    libexpat1        58,104
    libfontconfig1  113,264
    libfreetype6    369,440
    libpng16        156,684
    libxcb1          35,116
    total compressed size: 9,800,337

Compare to Tcl/Tk with GDI:

    mingw-w64-x86_64-tcl-8.6.4-1-any.pkg.tar.xz   2,943,876
    mingw-w64-x86_64-tk-8.6.4-1-any.pkg.tar.xz    1,915,372
    mingw-w64-x86_64-zlib-1.2.8-7-any.pkg.tar.xz    151,396
    total compressed size: 5,010,644

http://www2.futureware.at/~nickoe/msys2-mirror/mingw64

I feel that forcing users to install X11 just to run a 338 KB gitk script is a
bad idea.

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