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Date: | Thu, 13 Mar 2014 00:56:46 +0400 |
From: | Andrey Repin <anrdaemon AT yandex DOT ru> |
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To: | Corinna Vinschen <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> |
Subject: | Re: Please stop sending email to ... |
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Greetings, Corinna Vinschen! >> >>> I know that this is a pointless exercise but I'll say it anyway: people >> >>> who think that they can have a private chat with Corinna or Larry by >> >>> sending email to what seem to be their private email addresses will just >> >>> show up in the spam trap, possibly even causing spamassassin to think >> >>> that they are a spammer. >> >>> >> >>> We mention in multiple places that cygwin-related issues should go to >> >>> this list. So, please don't bother trying to send private email unless >> >>> you've been specifically asked to do so. You'll also be doing me a >> >>> favor because I won't have to spend time cleaning out the spam traps. >> >> >> >>Well, here goes nothing. >> >> >> >>I am happy to admit that I'm one of those persons. The problem is >> >>exactly that what you claim we "should do" versus what is actually >> >>possible to do. If any of the list maintainers had actually bothered >> >>to try to register to these email lists, you would probably have found >> >>out that your spam filters are set so high, that it is impossible for >> >>normal people to even register to these lists! >> >> > FYI, The Cygwin list has 1212 subscribers with 89 new joiners since >> > January 1. I'm the "list maintainer" and I'm obviously registered. >> > The same software that handles Cygwin also handles gcc.gnu.org and >> > sourceware.org. There are many other mailing lists under those >> > domains, and some of them have even more subscribers. >> >> The point was, it's nowhere mentioned, who to contact in case of list issues. >> Not in list mail headers, neither on list's mailman web page. >> I've had multiple mails blocked for containing "foreign language" (how can I >> help? It's Microsoft smarts to translate group names to make everyone >> unhappy), and I multiple times tried to find the address to appeal to. To no >> avail. >> Yes, I vaguely recalled, that there supposed to be "<list>-owner" address, >> but it's only my poor memory. How can I trust her without confirmation? > On the other hand, the "postmaster" account exists everywhere... Not to argue, but postmaster is often not the right person to contact mailing list owner. Now, given proper explanation, I realize this is not the case for cygwin mailing list, and I've already pinned Christopher's message for future reference. -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdaemon AT yandex DOT ru) 12.03.2014, <23:32> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
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