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On 1/23/2014 10:40 AM, DEWI - N. Zacharias wrote:

<snip>

>
> [...]
>
>> One solution to this would be to reimplement it as two separate parts -
>> a non-Cygwin envelope (which could even be installed as an msi) and a
>> Cygwin-based package maintainer.  The Cygwin-based part would be a
>> completely separate Cygwin installation, with its own cygwin1.dll, and a
>> minimal set of utilities, and would not interfere with the main
>> installation.
>> The non-cygwin wrapper would simply install/update this mini-Cygwin
>> system and invoke the Cygwin-based package maintainer.
>
> I second this idea.
>
>> The package maintainer would be based on the existing setup.exe,
>
> I think this is not that good. If you rewrite the tool you should throw
> away ballast and use the chance to include new helpful things like a clean
> interface to an installation config file which allows cloning of existent
> installations.

Unless there's someone reading this thread that's actually going to jump
in and start working on setup-next-generation, I'd like to ask others that
are considering adding to this thread to not do so.  Talking about what
would be great as a next-generation version of setup has been done plenty
in the past and it's quite likely that a continuation of this thread along
this line will rehash what has already been said.  What's missing isn't
ideas on how to make a better setup facility.  What's missing are the
brave and capable souls to do it.  If this describes you, I'd recommend
checking the archives for previous discussions on this subject and
then proposing a plan based on those discussions.  Best to do that on the
cygwin-apps list though.

-- 
Larry

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A: Yes.
 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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