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Again, what I talk about is NOT an issue of vi vs. vim.
What I talk about is a breaking change in vim that was introduced
while doing a change for vi.
But it is NOT an issue of vi vs. vim.

Here again my original mail:

Hi Yaakov,

I'm wondering that noone mentioned it before, but maybe everyone is
using ~/.vimrc or they were not as puzzled as me and tried to find out
what went wrong.
After updating to your latest vim build 1152, vim started to behave
really unexpected, no syntax coloring, only one undo step and doing
undo again did a redo, ...
In the meantime I found out that your 7.3-virc.patch is the culprit, it replaces

# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "$VIM/vimrc"

by

# ifdef FEAT_NORMAL
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "/etc/vimrc"
# else
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "/etc/virc"
# endif

which changes system vimrc file from /etc/vim/vimrc to /etc/vimrc for
normal vim usage.
This way no options are set and vim starts its strange behaviour.

I guess the new block of code should probably more likely be

# ifdef FEAT_NORMAL
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "$VIM/vimrc"
# else
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "$VIM/virc"
# endif

or at most

# ifdef FEAT_NORMAL
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "$VIM/vimrc"
# else
# define SYS_VIMRC_FILE "/etc/virc"
# endif

Regards
Björn

2013/12/9 Corinna Vinschen:
> On Dec  9 13:34, Frank Fesevur wrote:
>> 2013/12/9 Björn Kautler:
>> > I don't have a problem with being mean.
>> > Everyone makes mistakes.
>> > I just wonder that it gets broken silently without obvious (to me) reason
>> > and a question regarding it and with two proposed solutions just stays
>> > ignored while it would be very easy to fix.
>>
>> To me, the best way to fix these problems is simple: start using
>> alternatives again just like before vim-7.3.943-1. It makes everybody
>> happy. You don't need to know if just vim-minimal or the full vim is
>> installed. And whether you are used to typing "vi" or "vim", both
>> commands start the best available version of vim.
>>
>> I don't understand why it was removed anyway. I brought up the
>> question before and never got an answer.
>
> The new vim layout closely reflects the Fedora packaging.  It has a
> minimal vi in the vim-minimal package and a full-featured vim in the
> vim-enhanced package.  I'm using a vi -> vim alias on Fedora for ages.
>
>
> Corinna
>
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