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Date:	Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:29:58 +0200
From:	Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
To:	cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject:	Re: Case sensitive filenames for non-NTFS filesystems
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On Aug  2 19:05, Shaddy Baddah wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 02 Aug 2013 18:31+1000, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >Correction, not only NTFS.  Here's the source code comment:
> 
> Sorry, yes I forgot that it was coded to let Windows make the decision.
> 
> >>Unfortunately, in providing EXFAT, Microsoft has not seen fit to carry
> >>over the same handling in the kernel as it does in NTFS.
> >
> >ExFAT is based on FAT/FAT32, so it's understandable.  I don't have ExFAT
> >available.  Assuming your ExFAT drive is drive X:, can you please show
> >me the output of
> >
> >   /usr/lib/csih/getVolInfo.exe /cygdrive/x
> >
> >If it returns different values than FAT, it might be worth to handle
> >specificially in Cygwin's mount code.
> 
> This is the output for L: drive, which is not a physical but logical
> volume formatted EXFAT. Hopefully it doesn't alter the
> characteristics/attributes. With a bit of extra effort, I could try with
> a physical device (format a spare USB stick EXFAT through Windows):
> 
> $ /usr/lib/csih/getVolInfo.exe /cygdrive/l
> Device Type        : 7
> Characteristics    : 121
> Volume Name        : <>
> Serial Number      : 1211155165
> Max Filenamelength : 255
> Filesystemname     : <exFAT>
> Flags              : 6
>   FILE_CASE_SENSITIVE_SEARCH  : FALSE
>   FILE_CASE_PRESERVED_NAMES   : TRUE
>   FILE_UNICODE_ON_DISK        : TRUE
>   FILE_PERSISTENT_ACLS        : FALSE
>   FILE_FILE_COMPRESSION       : FALSE
>   FILE_VOLUME_QUOTAS          : FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_SPARSE_FILES  : FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_REPARSE_POINTS: FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_REMOTE_STORAGE: FALSE
>   FILE_VOLUME_IS_COMPRESSED   : FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_OBJECT_IDS    : FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_ENCRYPTION    : FALSE
>   FILE_NAMED_STREAMS          : FALSE
>   FILE_READ_ONLY_VOLUME       : FALSE
>   FILE_SEQUENTIAL_WRITE_ONCE  : FALSE
>   FILE_SUPPORTS_TRANSACTIONS  : FALSE
> 
> >Well, from my POV, yes.  It doesn't make sense to use ExFAT for serious
> >work anyway, it's for SD cards and stuff like that.
> 
> I understand that. It's just that after years of being frustrated with
> moving files around various NTFS partitions and fighting with
> ownership/permission issues, especially where Cygwin work
> files/directories are involved, I've decided that I should PoC a brave
> new world.
> 
> That being giving up on security through file/folder ACLs, and just
> mount FAT32 (or the candidate EXFAT) fs via as an encrypted logical
> volume.
> 
> My Cygwin work will be access that way. If I need to move it, I move
> the encrypted file only.
> 
> But I have to admit that the "con" of losing case-preservation is a
> weighty one. [...]

Giving up on security but wanting case sensitivity... so why not use
NTFS with the noacl mount option where necessary?


Corinna

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