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Date:	Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:49 -0400
From:	Charles Wilson <cygwin AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm>
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Subject:	Re: 1.7.20: cygicons-0.dll has gone missing
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On 6/28/2013 6:16 AM, Andrey Repin wrote:
>>>> The cygutils package was recently split into cygutils-extra and
>>>> cygutils-x11.  Install cygutils-extra.
>>>
>>> Doesn't this suggest that cygicons-0.dll should be included
>>> in the base cygwin package?
>
>> base does not needs icons, so in IMHO no.
>
> That's a bit flawed line, IMO.
> Default install should put user's system in a consistent working order.
> Missing icons is not something I would call "consistent".

What part of a default install [1] *requires* icons from cygicon-0.dll? 
  Now, if you're talking about updating an existing cygwin installation 
via setup.exe [with no special package selection], then yeah -- this is 
a *known* breakage.  But it's better than the previous *known issue* 
where a default "Base" install [1] would pull in python and bits of X11. 
  THAT is what this packaging change was intended to fix, and because we 
did so deliberately in order to break requires: dependencies, we 
couldn't very well avoid the problem you see by adding those same 
requires: dependencies right back.

Summary: READ the cygwin-announce list. Always. KNOW what you're doing 
when you upgrade.  AND, if you didn't do that...when you see an error 
due to a "routine upgrade"...go back and DO read that list.

[1] And by "default install" I mean "new installation of cygwin, using 
setup.exe, on a virgin system that has never before had cygwin 
installed", where NO special package selection is made.  E.g. a "Base" 
installation.

And really, missing icons doesn't break a darn thing. It just makes 
things look less pretty, temporarily, until you manually install the 
correct package.

--
Chuck


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