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On 11/04/2013 7:00 PM, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:23:42PM +0100, N.M. Maclaren wrote:
>> On Apr 11 2013, Steve Kargl wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:35:54PM +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote:
>>>> * gfortran's example for random_see should be change to not use
>>>> system_clock for the random seed.
>>> I disagree.  The example is just that a short example
>>> that demonstrates how to use random_seed.  Anyone using
>>> that example in his/her code without testing the results
>>> in his/her potentially broken environment should not be
>>> programming.
>> That is unfair.  Few scientists will know that system clocks are
>> an iffy aspect of a programming language, especially as there are
>> no fundamental reasons that should be the case.
> This has nothing to do with the iffy-ness of system clocks.  My
> disagreemnet is predicated on the stupidity of using a 10 line
> example subroutine without actually inspecting what it does on
> whatever OS that one chooses to use.  Perhaps, my expectations
> for the IQ of scientists is too high.  Are you suggesting that
> every code snippet in the manual should contain a cautionary
> comment of the form:
>
> !
> ! This is only an example.  Use with extreme caution.
> !
This has wandered off topic into some pretty snitty territory... truce?


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