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On 01/08/2013 04:14 PM, Warren Young wrote:
> On 1/8/2013 06:59, bartels wrote:
>>
>> The windows format.com
>
> format.com hasn't existed since the DOS days.  That includes the DOS-based versions of Windows, up through Windows ME.  Under NT-derived 
> versions of Windows, "format" is a built-in command in cmd.exe.

That may very well be true, but I have a friend called locate:

$ locate format.com
/cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/format.com
/cygdrive/c/Windows/SysWOW64/format.com
/cygdrive/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft-windows-format_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_827dd459a3aa9980/format.com
/cygdrive/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft-windows-format_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7600.16385_none_265f38d5eb4d284a/format.com

And it even seems to work ;-)

>
> > claims the fs is write protected, but I hope dd
>> can help out.
>
> It's worth a try, but if I had to take a blind bet on it, I'd say you're going to find that dd will give the same result.  Cygwin is 
> essentially a user-level process.  If cmd.exe cannot do a thing, dd.exe probably can't, either.
>
> It is *possible* that unmounting the filesystem with the taskbar button will let you write to the raw device.  But Windows being Windows, it's 
> possible that will make it disappear from the system entirely, too.
I cannot touch the gui.
It may not be necessary, as format.com has a /x feature.
>
>> The mtab is not very helpful:
>
> That's because Cygwin proper does not mount local filesystems.  The Cygwin mount table just shows you Cygwin-specific mappings that it has 
> added on top of what the underlying NT kernel has done.

Okay, I see.

>> My question is this: which device in /dev do I use?
>
> According to [this][1] it's probably /dev/sdb.  But please do read through what I pointed you to first, and check its applicability carefully 
> before attempting this.

'Probably' is not good enough when the goal is targeted destruction :)
I need a solid automated procedure to locate my device.

$ cat  /proc/partitions
major minor  #blocks  name

     8     0 732574584 sda
     8     1    104391 sda1
     8     2 245063542 sda2
     8    16 976762584 sdb
     8    17    102400 sdb1
     8    18 976657408 sdb2
     8    32 4882808320 sdc
     8    33    131072 sdc1
     8    34 4882675712 sdc2
     8    48   3909092 sdd
     8    49   3909091 sdd1
     8    64   7566844 sde
     8    65   7566016 sde1
     8    80  31590400 sdf
     8    81  31590400 sdf1

$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
C:/cygwin/bin   932G   62G  871G   7% /usr/bin
C:/cygwin/lib   932G   62G  871G   7% /usr/lib
C:/cygwin       932G   62G  871G   7% /
C:              932G   62G  871G   7% /cygdrive/c
D:               31G   31G     0 100% /cygdrive/d
E:              102M   30M   73M  30% /cygdrive/e
F:              234G  137G   98G  59% /cygdrive/f
K:              3.8G  616M  3.2G  17% /cygdrive/k
O:              4.6T  1.7T  3.0T  36% /cygdrive/o
X:              3.1G  3.1G     0 100% /cygdrive/x
Y:              4.6T  1.7T  3.0T  36% /cygdrive/y
Z:              7.3G   46M  7.2G   1% /cygdrive/z


>
> [1] http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-posixdevices

Yeah, I had a look see on that page before and it is not all that helpful, for reasons you explained.

Does windows leave a trail when mounting?
Prospects are not good without it.

Thanks for the help.

- bartels



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